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LAS VEGAS -- None of the offers for star free-agent first baseman,Mark Teixeira, who is represented by Scott Boras, have become public yet, beyond the long-running speculation that Teixeira's likely to be the big winner this winter at $160 million over eight years.

However, word is gathering that the Red Sox are one of the most aggressive pursuers of Teixeira, with several executives predicting he may wind up there. They don't seem to be the most obvious team for Teixeira, as they have Kevin Youkilis at first base, and even if Youkilis should move over to third base, they have 2007 World Series hero Mike Lowell stationed there. However, the Red Sox are believed to be enamored with Teixeira. Although it would be impossible to repeat it exactly, the Red Sox hope that pairing David Ortiz with Teixeira would replicate the fearsome middle of the order they had for years with Ortiz and Manny Ramirez.

As for pitching, Boston met on Monday with top free agent starters CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett, but one person suggested the Sabathia meeting was more a "head fake'' than anything and said Teixeira is more Boston's style ibecause there's less risk that goes along with an in-shape position player.

The incumbent Angels plus the Yankees, Nationals and Orioles appear to be among other strong pursuers for Teixeira, who also received inquiries from the Giants, Mariners and others. 
December 9, 2008  12:51 PM ET

I still wonder if Tex is Boston's kind of guy. Seems more like A-Rod, a bit aloof in the clubhouse, kind of a "me" guy. Great hitter and fielder, of course, so that may trump the questionable stuff. But I don't know, he just doesn't seem to fit in well.

December 9, 2008  12:55 PM ET

I wonder if Tex or Lowell would play shortstop? Lugo is underwhelming.

December 9, 2008  01:08 PM ET

wojo - Huh? Are you talking about Tex being a 2004 Boston Red Sox kind of guy? or 2009? The dynamic has changed... there are no more fun loving "idiots" on the team... Manny, Pedro, Damon, Millar... they're all gone. The 2009 Red Sox are exactly the kind of team Tex is looking for.

December 9, 2008  01:12 PM ET

If Sox got Teixeira and Lowe, it would be a block buster off season. Youkilis, Teixeira, and Pedroia in the infield. Becket, Lester, Matsusaka, Masterson & Lowe in the rotation with Wakefield as a sixth starter. A very good bull pen and a bunch of up and coming prospect pitchers.

Trade Lowell and Lugo for whatever you can get.

Trade Buchholz and a couple of other prospects for Teagarden and they're done.

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December 9, 2008  01:15 PM ET

Shortstop??
How about bringing back Rico

December 9, 2008  01:16 PM ET

Tex is gonna cost a lot of money ... and then he'll cause some personnel problems for the BoSox ... where will Lowe and Youkilis play? Neither will DH as long as Big Papi is around...

100 million dollars to add a guy that MAY cause team chemistry problems sounds like a potential self-inflicted wound ...

Seems to me Boston needs pitching more than Teixeria ... not sure I believe the "head fake" isn't the pursuit of Tex!

December 9, 2008  01:22 PM ET

cschorer you are right that is the dumbest suggestions...it is more likely that either of them would play 2nd and that pedroia would move over to play short where he once played...however i said it is "more likely" and that being more likely in a 3% chance....

December 9, 2008  01:26 PM ET

Lyle,

Here is your infield (excluding catcher cause I have NO idea what the sox are gonna do with the catching position) Teix at 1st, Dustin at 2nd, Lowrie at SS, Youk playing 3rd.

The thing that worries me about the possible Teix signing is not the "team chemistry", Teix is one of the most respected and well like players in baseball. It's the fact that you basically have a very similar player in Youk at 1st base. He's a gold glove quality 1st baseman, hits for decent pop (25-30) homeruns, 100 RBIs. The only downside is he doesn't switch hit. You also lose ANY trade value for Lowell since teams KNOW the sox need to move him.

December 9, 2008  01:31 PM ET

i hope, as a yankee fan that the redsox do not sign tex. i fear that it will bring back the bat of david ortiz who obviously was helped alot by manny.

December 9, 2008  01:35 PM ET

I agree about Lowell....I do think that this is a move that should get done though...and the reason i say that is because Lowell is old and I don't know what to expect from him post surgery...Big papi is not the same 54 HR Big Papi that he was, he's getting older and his numbers are way on the decline, without someone like Tex or Manny behind him his numbers will decline even more....I think that offense is in trouble unless they do something to infuse some power into, there are just a lot of unknowns...Looking at others in the AL East, we need to do something, you know NYY is going to make drastic moves and the Rays have a solid rotation that will be hard to compete with in shields, kazmir, garza, price (assuming they bring him up) ....

December 9, 2008  01:38 PM ET

However, I do think that we do need to also fill in those 4-5 starter role (perhaps mid season tazawa becomes one in that role) ... however, Wakefield is not going to cut it and Masterson (love the guy) is a relief pitcher. He will not last as a starter due to his herky jerky motion. There some B level starters that are FA we could go after...In the philosophy of the Red Sox (fixing some starters who have been good and troubles) I like Oliver Perez from the Mets who is a FA...He is 26 would cost significantly less and is a left hander. He might be a low risk project. If they were to get Tex, Lowe or Burnett would be too much money....

December 9, 2008  01:51 PM ET

Adding Teix and keeping Lowell wouldnt be such a bad idea. When healthy Lowell, Ortiz and Youk are very good.

But Ortiz and Lowell are question marks and age is certainly a concern for both, add in that Youk generally falters late in the season and theres perfect sense to use Lowell, Youk and Ortiz in situational playing time, all three get more rest but still plenty of playing time.

Youk is your fall back at 1B midgame and short term if theres an injury and Lowell and Youk available at 3B if the other gets hurt. Youk can also add short term depth to the corner OF spots since Boston usually likes having a corner OF/IB type on the bench.

In 2010 the Sox can start working Lars Anderson in and if he performs at the ML level they can swap him in for a 36 year old Ortiz in 2011.

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December 9, 2008  02:19 PM ET

First of all, lyleunderbay Pedroia is staying at second, V-teck has as much of a chance at switching positions as dusty-p, secondly Texiera is not the answer, through out his career he has never flashed consistant 20 million dollar power. He has streaks and flashes, which contribute to some big years, but look at his splits they tell a different story. He has never proven to be a winner, and he has been expected too a few times (atlanta last year, anaheim this year.) If he were to be signed I think the idea is to try to move Lowell or Papi, Lowell would be tought to move with the contract that he has, it would be tough to get value for him, and papi may not be a smart move considering we would have to face him in the AL since i am sure NL teams wouldn't want to try him a 1st for 130 games. Overall I really like Prince Fielder, and he is available especially to the red sox. It would cost something, but I am sure a package of Bucholtz, Bowden or Bard (possibly two of of those three.) and than Redick or Corselatti on of those hitters and we might be able to get the closest thing to The Papi of 04'-07' in the league right now, I would send him a package of Omaha Steaks if he came to town try to get back to that 07' form but he would be the ideal in my opinion (get him cheap than sign him long term.) I am just unsure on whether I want my squad to spend 20 million a year on a guy who can barely go over 30 hrs, he would be better than Fielder defensivly but Fielder is a much better and powerful hitter. Ironically though we may spend 200 million dollars on a guy we drafted in 1998 and couldnt sign than.

December 9, 2008  02:25 PM ET

First of all, lyleunderbay Pedroia is staying at second, V-teck has as much of a chance at switching positions as dusty-p, secondly Texiera is not the answer, through out his career he has never flashed consistant 20 million dollar power. He has streaks and flashes, which contribute to some big years, but look at his splits they tell a different story. He has never proven to be a winner, and he has been expected too a few times (atlanta last year, anaheim this year.) If he were to be signed I think the idea is to try to move Lowell or Papi, Lowell would be tought to move with the contract that he has, it would be tough to get value for him, and papi may not be a smart move considering we would have to face him in the AL since i am sure NL teams wouldn't want to try him a 1st for 130 games. Overall I really like Prince Fielder, and he is available especially to the red sox. It would cost something, but I am sure a package of Bucholtz, Bowden or Bard (possibly two of of those three.) and than Redick or Corselatti on of those hitters and we might be able to get the closest thing to The Papi of 04'-07' in the league right now, I would send him a package of Omaha Steaks if he came to town try to get back to that 07' form but he would be the ideal in my opinion (get him cheap than sign him long term.) I am just unsure on whether I want my squad to spend 20 million a year on a guy who can barely go over 30 hrs, he would be better than Fielder defensivly but Fielder is a much better and powerful hitter. Ironically though we may spend 200 million dollars on a guy we drafted in 1998 and couldnt sign than.

December 9, 2008  02:25 PM ET

Fielder? Are you kidding?

Guy is averaging 14 errors a year at 1B.

Teixeira is better then Fielder and comes cheaper. If they trade for Fielder they still gotta sign him longterm which will cost lots of dollars, but the fact is you still gotta use the prospects to get him, where as with Teix, you just gotta pay him the cash.

December 9, 2008  02:32 PM ET

I still don't get why the Sox need him???

THERE IS NO OFF-SEASON FOR THIS RIVALRY!

In the Mark Teixeira sweepstakes, the Boston Red Sox seem to be an unlikely fit. The reason is, there is no where for the big first baseman to play. He can't DH because Big Papi is still 'the man' in Boston and he can't play first base because Kevin Youkilis is clearly not going anywhere.

Ah, why don't the Sox move Youk to 3rd and have Teixeira at 1st. Well, Mike Lowell is absolutely critical to the Red Sox playoff success and Theo 'the Genius' Epstein would be very uncomfortable moving him to a bench roll.

That leaves 2 possibilities. First, the Red Sox could trade Ortiz (a move that would be questioned royally in New England - although, I think Ortiz is injury prone and not the player he was with Manny.) Or, they could be trying to raise the price for their chief rivals in the AL - the Angels and most importantly the Yankees.

The Yankees are the team that would be willing to pay all the money in the world for a player of interest, and Nick Swisher is not the quality of player that would prevent the Yankees from pursuing Teixeira.

The Yankees have irrational ownership - at least they did when George was in charge and I will maintain that opinion until I find evidence to the contrary - and the brilliant Red Sox front office may have information that leads them to believe the Yankees are going to try and sneak in to snatch Teixeira.

Perhaps this move has even more significant if the Yankees - who may want to limit their spending (in relative terms) and will keep the price down on one of the pitchers the Red Sox are after if they decide to buy Teixeira.

December 9, 2008  02:35 PM ET

read what I wrote carefully i never said that would ever happen, i was saying that had more of chance happening then tex or lowell moving to short...i was poking fun at the idea who said they might want to play short

 
December 9, 2008  02:42 PM ET

arte moreno is sprung on teixera, so i doubt that he will let him get away. vlad is a free agent next year and with signs of slightly diminishing skills the angels need a big bat to build around for the foreseeable future. i could easily see the halos going over the 8yr./160 mark.

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