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  <title>Red Sox going aggressively after Teixeira</title>
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        <body>Yanks will sign Burnett/Lowe/Sheets...and Tex..</body>
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        <body>Yeah but the Sox have more money than the Angels. Angels fans should get used to the sight of teixiera in a sox uni.</body>
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        <body>Tsssms is retarded. The sox are gunna sign tex and youk can easily be moved back to third. i think we saw that when lowell was out last year. Youk might not win a gold glove at 3rd but hes solid. To say Tex &amp;quot;doesn't fit with the sox&amp;quot; is just a dumb uneducated view of the situation. If there is a move to be made that makes the team better theo makes it. it doesn't matter who the incumbent player is. No-one is untradeable.</body>
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        <body>Loweel should be traded if we sign tex but he doesn't have to be. If the right deal doesn't come along he'll be an expensive and oft-used bench player. probaly will still get 300 at-bats. I am ok with that. he can give any one of youk, tex, or ortiz a day off and not weaken the lineup by much. i like that idea. Lowrie at short, re-sign tek, trade for teargerden or saltalamacchia sign burnett or lowe(either 1) and thats a team that wins 105 games and a 3rd title in 6 years. sweet action.</body>
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        <body>How can you say tex seems like Arod. What an idiotic thing to say. Don't get me wrong hes no mike lowell in the clubhouse but I don't see him being a problem nor have I ever heard anyone say one bad word about him...teammate or otherwise.</body>
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          <quoted-text>I don't think you understand TJ, Fielder is making 700,000 dollars a year right now. You are right if he were to come to Boston he wouldn't be guaranteed to sign with them, but commonsense tells me if the Sox want to sign him when they get him that they could and they could do it cheaper than if he were to hit the open market. I don't think a player like that, making that much and who would be coming to a team the quality of the redsox would turn down the potential of a 5 year 75 million dollar deal, or something in that ball park. I personally think red sox farm system is the deepest in the league and has been kept intact for quite a while. I have seen corseletti play and even though he is considered to be a good prospect he isnt going to be a game changer in the big leagues, as far as buchholtz and bard. I am not sold on them both have had control problems and both have been great but also inconsistant, I honestly think we more talent with the money we save than with what we would give up. Remember that even though guys like David Murphy, and Gabbard have shown flashes they were traded because of the realization that they could not consistently stay on the red sox big league roster which is deeper than any roster in the league MLB- single A</quoted-text>
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          <body>I understand completely, I think you're the one who doesn't.

Arbitration kicks in this winter for Fielder so expect that number to kick up towards $10 million next season. And again the following season his salary will rise.

What reason would Fielder have to not test the open market?

Fielder will get a deal slightly less then what Teixeira and Ryan Howard will get, so why should Boston give up several prospects for a player there is not guarantee they will be able to keep past his arbitration years when they can get a better player now for slightly more per year then the other player will get.</body>
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        <quoted-text>I understand completely, I think you're the one who doesn't.Arbitration kicks in this winter for Fielder so expect that number to kick up towards $10 million next season. And again the following season his salary will rise.What reason would Fielder have to not test the open market?Fielder will get a deal slightly less then what Teixeira and Ryan Howard will get, so why should Boston give up several prospects for a player there is not guarantee they will be able to keep past his arbitration years when they can get a better player now for slightly more per year then the other player will get.</quoted-text>
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        <body>All great points, plus everyone is missing 2 key words....Scott Boras.  He is Fielders agent.  He rarely if ever lets his &amp;quot;studs&amp;quot; sign hometown deal contracts and not at least test free agency.  So as you said, the Sox would be giving up multiple prospects for a likely 50/50 chance at signing Fielder.  .</body>
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          <body>I still don't get why the Sox need him???

THERE IS NO OFF-SEASON FOR THIS RIVALRY!

In the Mark Teixeira sweepstakes, the Boston Red Sox seem to be an unlikely fit. The reason is, there is no where for the big first baseman to play. He can't DH because Big Papi is still 'the man' in Boston and he can't play first base because Kevin Youkilis is clearly not going anywhere.

Ah, why don't the Sox move Youk to 3rd and have Teixeira at 1st. Well, Mike Lowell is absolutely critical to the Red Sox playoff success and Theo 'the Genius' Epstein would be very uncomfortable moving him to a bench roll.

That leaves 2 possibilities. First, the Red Sox could trade Ortiz (a move that would be questioned royally in New England - although, I think Ortiz is injury prone and not the player he was with Manny.) Or, they could be trying to raise the price for their chief rivals in the AL - the Angels and most importantly the Yankees.

The Yankees are the team that would be willing to pay all the money in the world for a player of interest, and Nick Swisher is not the quality of player that would prevent the Yankees from pursuing Teixeira.

The Yankees have irrational ownership - at least they did when George was in charge and I will maintain that opinion until I find evidence to the contrary - and the brilliant Red Sox front office may have information that leads them to believe the Yankees are going to try and sneak in to snatch Teixeira.

Perhaps this move has even more significant if the Yankees - who may want to limit their spending (in relative terms) and will keep the price down on one of the pitchers the Red Sox are after if they decide to buy Teixeira.</body>
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        <quoted-text>I still don't get why the Sox need him???THERE IS NO OFF-SEASON FOR THIS RIVALRY!In the Mark Teixeira sweepstakes, the Boston Red Sox seem to be an unlikely fit. The reason is, there is no where for the big first baseman to play. He can't DH because Big Papi is still 'the man' in Boston and he can't play first base because Kevin Youkilis is clearly not going anywhere.Ah, why don't the Sox move Youk to 3rd and have Teixeira at 1st. Well, Mike Lowell is absolutely critical to the Red Sox playoff success and Theo 'the Genius' Epstein would be very uncomfortable moving him to a bench roll.That leaves 2 possibilities. First, the Red Sox could trade Ortiz (a move that would be questioned royally in New England - although, I think Ortiz is injury prone and not the player he was with Manny.) Or, they could be trying to raise the price for their chief rivals in the AL - the Angels and most importantly the Yankees.The Yankees are the team that would be willing to pay all the money in the world for a player of interest, and Nick Swisher is not the quality of player that would prevent the Yankees from pursuing Teixeira.The Yankees have irrational ownership - at least they did when George was in charge and I will maintain that opinion until I find evidence to the contrary - and the brilliant Red Sox front office may have information that leads them to believe the Yankees are going to try and sneak in to snatch Teixeira.Perhaps this move has even more significant if the Yankees - who may want to limit their spending (in relative terms) and will keep the price down on one of the pitchers the Red Sox are after if they decide to buy Teixeira.</quoted-text>
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        <body>Let's see - Mark Teixeira or Mike Lowell.  Mmmmm.  Wait, give me more time.  Ummm, OK, I guess Teixeira is better.  .****, are you serious?   Teixeira is twice the player Lowell is right now.  I don't really care what Lowell did in 2007.  What I care about is the next year and year after that.  With that in mind, why WOULDN'T the Sox need him?</body>
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          <body>Uhm, guys, chill out. I am 110% the guy who suggested they play short was joking. Relax for two seconds and remember that not everyone thinks they are one good comment away from being an actual GM. Obviously, it makes sense to get Tex, he is an upgrade on both Lowell and Youk. He is better than Youkilis (much more feared hitter) and is healthier and younger than Lowell. If Lowell proves he is healthy in the spring, there will be a few teams willing to trade for him. He is a quality guy and only had 2 years left on his contract. With Lester, Beckett, Dice-K -- why would Sabatthia be more of a priority than upgrading an offense that was anemic at times this year?</body>
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        <quoted-text>Uhm, guys, chill out. I am 110% the guy who suggested they play short was joking. Relax for two seconds and remember that not everyone thinks they are one good comment away from being an actual GM. Obviously, it makes sense to get Tex, he is an upgrade on both Lowell and Youk. He is better than Youkilis (much more feared hitter) and is healthier and younger than Lowell. If Lowell proves he is healthy in the spring, there will be a few teams willing to trade for him. He is a quality guy and only had 2 years left on his contract. With Lester, Beckett, Dice-K -- why would Sabatthia be more of a priority than upgrading an offense that was anemic at times this year?</quoted-text>
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        <body>To me the idea of chasing Sabbathia is retarded. We have enough #1 guys, we need a solid back of the rotation guy who can be counted on.</body>
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          <body>I don't think you understand TJ, Fielder is making 700,000 dollars a year right now.  You are right if he were to come to Boston he wouldn't be guaranteed to sign with them, but commonsense tells me if the Sox want to sign him when they get him that they could and they could do it cheaper than if he were to hit the open market.  I don't think a player like that, making that much and who would be coming to a team the quality of the redsox would turn down the potential of a 5 year 75 million dollar deal, or something in that ball park.  I personally think red sox farm system is the deepest in the league and has been kept intact for quite a while.  I have seen corseletti play and even though he is considered to be a good prospect he isnt going to be a game changer in the big leagues, as far as buchholtz and bard.  I am not sold on them both have had control problems and both have been great but also inconsistant,  I honestly think we more talent with the money we save than with what we would give up.   Remember that even though guys like David Murphy, and Gabbard have shown flashes they were traded because of the realization that they could not consistently stay on the red sox big league roster which is deeper than any roster in the league MLB- single A</body>
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        <quoted-text>I don't think you understand TJ, Fielder is making 700,000 dollars a year right now. You are right if he were to come to Boston he wouldn't be guaranteed to sign with them, but commonsense tells me if the Sox want to sign him when they get him that they could and they could do it cheaper than if he were to hit the open market. I don't think a player like that, making that much and who would be coming to a team the quality of the redsox would turn down the potential of a 5 year 75 million dollar deal, or something in that ball park. I personally think red sox farm system is the deepest in the league and has been kept intact for quite a while. I have seen corseletti play and even though he is considered to be a good prospect he isnt going to be a game changer in the big leagues, as far as buchholtz and bard. I am not sold on them both have had control problems and both have been great but also inconsistant, I honestly think we more talent with the money we save than with what we would give up. Remember that even though guys like David Murphy, and Gabbard have shown flashes they were traded because of the realization that they could not consistently stay on the red sox big league roster which is deeper than any roster in the league MLB- single A</quoted-text>
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        <body>I understand completely, I think you're the one who doesn't.

Arbitration kicks in this winter for Fielder so expect that number to kick up towards $10 million next season. And again the following season his salary will rise.

What reason would Fielder have to not test the open market?

Fielder will get a deal slightly less then what Teixeira and Ryan Howard will get, so why should Boston give up several prospects for a player there is not guarantee they will be able to keep past his arbitration years when they can get a better player now for slightly more per year then the other player will get.</body>
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        <body>Uhm, guys, chill out. I am 110% the guy who suggested they play short was joking. Relax for two seconds and remember that not everyone thinks they are one good comment away from being an actual GM. Obviously, it makes sense to get Tex, he is an upgrade on both Lowell and Youk. He is better than Youkilis (much more feared hitter) and is healthier and younger than Lowell. If Lowell proves he is healthy in the spring, there will be a few teams willing to trade for him. He is a quality guy and only had 2 years left on his contract. With Lester, Beckett, Dice-K -- why would Sabatthia be more of a priority than upgrading an offense that was anemic at times this year?</body>
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  <body>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;LAS VEGAS -- None of the offers for star free-agent first  baseman,&lt;strong&gt;Mark Teixeira&lt;/strong&gt;, who is represented by Scott Boras, have become public yet, beyond the long-running speculation  that Teixeira's likely to be the big winner this winter at $160 million over  eight years.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;However, word is&amp;nbsp;gathering that the Red Sox are one of the most  aggressive pursuers of Teixeira, with several executives predicting he may wind  up there.&amp;nbsp;They don't seem to be the most obvious team for Teixeira, as they have &lt;strong&gt; Kevin Youkilis&lt;/strong&gt; at first base, and even if Youkilis should move over to third base,  they have 2007 World Series hero &lt;strong&gt;Mike Lowell&lt;/strong&gt; stationed there. However, the Red  Sox are believed to be enamored with Teixeira. Although it would be impossible to repeat it exactly, the Red Sox hope that pairing &lt;strong&gt;David Ortiz&lt;/strong&gt; with Teixeira would replicate the fearsome middle of the order they had for years with Ortiz and Manny Ramirez.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;As for pitching, Boston met on Monday with top free agent starters &lt;strong&gt;CC Sabathia&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;A.J.  Burnett&lt;/strong&gt;, but one person suggested the Sabathia meeting was more&amp;nbsp;a &quot;head fake''  than anything and said Teixeira is more Boston's style ibecause there's less  risk that goes along with an in-shape position player.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;The incumbent Angels plus the Yankees, Nationals and&amp;nbsp;Orioles appear to  be among other strong pursuers for Teixeira, who also received inquiries from  the Giants, Mariners and others.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</body>
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