2009-01-16T11:41:44-05:00 2009-01-14T14:53:29-05:00 38 2009-01-14T14:53:29-05:00 1 4 10 2009-01-16T11:41:44-05:00 2 PA gmac'n Philadelphia 674020 38 The Hall of Fame is not about stats. Bert Blyleven is high on many lists -e.g. wins and k's because he was a very good pitcher for many years. He was never a dominant player though, making the All-Star team just twice. Pedro was Koufax like from 1997-2004. The numbers he put up during those eight seasons were so far beyond what anyone else was doing - sub 2.00 ERA's during the peak of the steriod era. He was as close to unhittable as a pitcher could be at that point. He is every bit Hall worthy. 4012090 2009-01-14T16:38:16-05:00 2 TX Easton99 Henderson 665448 7 won 20 games twice. 214 wins. Hall of Fame? 3984583 2009-01-16T10:14:00-05:00 52 NY tomtomtom88 New York 476633 won 20 games twice. 214 wins. Hall of Fame? 37 Been smoking crack lately? I guess you've never seen him pitch. He's only the greatest pitcher in the last 50 years. 4009675 2009-01-14T16:39:13-05:00 2 TX Easton99 Henderson 665448 8 Won 20 games twice. 214 career wins. Hall of Fame? 3984539 2009-01-16T10:12:44-05:00 52 NY tomtomtom88 New York 476633 Won 20 games twice. 214 career wins. Hall of Fame? 36 Been smoking crack? He's a lock for first ballot. He's only the greatest pitcher since Koufax/Gibson. 4009647 2009-01-16T10:08:56-05:00 114 AZ rinkrat Flagstaff 89330 35 As a Red Sox lover, I am sad to see this once terrific pitcher fading away. Pedro, for a few years there, you were the greatest pitcher in baseball. 4009536 2009-01-14T16:39:13-05:00 2 TX Easton99 Henderson 665448 8 Won 20 games twice. 214 career wins. Hall of Fame? 3984539 2009-01-15T07:17:14-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/636/121/thumb/edgar_martinez_autograph.jpg 127 WA tracejuno Seattle 636761 Won 20 games twice. 214 career wins. Hall of Fame? 34 Okay, man, you had your fun, making everybody believe you thought Pedro was not a lock for the Hall. You had us there. Now apologize. 3989288 2009-01-14T22:39:50-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/633/980/thumb/idi_amin.jpg 15 NY nothumb Brooklyn 634620 33 if pedro doesn't get in on the first ballot somebody should beat everyone who failed to vote him in with a rubber hose until they cry uncle. this is the guy who put up a sub-2.00 ERA when the league average was over 5 at the height of the steroid era. pedro in his prime was almost certainly the most dominant pitcher in the history of baseball. 3987522 2009-01-14T22:22:54-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/649/98/thumb/Green_Bay_Packers.jpg 83183 WI Dyhard Germantown 65298 32 Jon - GET THE LIVE FEED OFF! 3987411 2009-01-14T16:39:13-05:00 2 TX Easton99 Henderson 665448 8 Won 20 games twice. 214 career wins. Hall of Fame? 3984539 2009-01-14T22:02:45-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/627/651/thumb/80e5910cae67b256.jpg 12 NY NIXJETZYANX Port Washington 628291 Won 20 games twice. 214 career wins. Hall of Fame? 31 Not even a question, 1st ballot. Most dominating pitcher from 1997-2004...lights out stuff. Opposing teams feared the Red Sox when Pedro started. Comparable to Sandy Koufax, but Pedro lasted longer. Tough as a Yankee fan for me to admit it...but a fact is a fact. 3987323 2009-01-14T21:39:06-05:00 266 CA Jbird North Hollywood 53263 30 Pedro? He's over. Unless . . . he go the Dennis Eckersly route. Try pitching relief. Not necessarily closing, but a good 7th-8th inning guy, which is important to a team. He could go another 3-4 years doing that. He WAS a great pitcher. I'd love to see him pitching well in a different situation. And he seems to have a good attitude. Doesn't he? I'm not in N.Y., but I'm hoping so. We need more warmth and humor in baseball to balance out the coldness of all the money. 3987129 2009-01-14T21:32:44-05:00 266 CA Jbird North Hollywood 53263 29 Trooper707 Koufax HAD to retire at 31, in his prime, and it was an awesome prime. Also, he was on a team that did not score many runs. The Dodgers in those years were all pitching. All of the players at that time have said--Frank Robinson, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, among them--that Koufax was in a realm of his own in an era that had several great pitchers. Sometimes you just don't look at numbers to determine the quality of a player. Phil Nierko was a 300 game winner and was NEVER considered a dominant pitcher. He just pitched a long time--got into the HOF--which was a joke. Even Nolan Ryan was graced with good health, pitching for what 25 years? Amazing. His over-all won/lost record was something like 13-12. He almost lost 300 games to go with the 300 wins. I understand there is a new set of stats now for this--taking into account how long a guy plays, as opposed to flat stats. Good idea. Have a good season pal, whomever you're rooting for. 3987123 38 <div class="photo_container image_right"> <div class="photo"><img src="http://img.fannation.com/upload/si_blog_post_images/20161/t1_pedroblog.jpg" alt="T1_pedroblog" /></div> <div class="photo_attributes" style="text-align: left;">It wouldn't be shocking to see Pedro back in a Mets uni,<br />considering Omar Minaya's fondness of the pitcher.<br />AP<br /></div> </div> <p><strong>Pedro Martinez</strong> lost one potential suitor when the Indians signed <strong>Carl Pavano</strong>. Before securing Pavano with a contract for $1.5 million plus $5.3 million in incentives, the Indians had been pursuing Martinez, it was learned. The Indians never made a formal offer, but they were contemplating something in the $7 million range depending on how his health checked out.</p> <p style="text-align: left;">Pedro's longtime agent <strong>Fern Cuza</strong> told SI.com a couple weeks ago that four teams were showing interest in the Cooperstown-bound pitcher at the time. The Mets have had some interest, but their signing of <strong>Tim Redding</strong> might put Martinez on the back burner for now. At present, the Mets seem to be concentrating on <strong>Oliver Perez</strong>, with <strong>Randy Wolf</strong> seen as the more likely backup plan in case they don't get Perez.<br /><br />Perez can never be counted out when it comes to the Mets, since GM <strong>Omar Minaya</strong> is a big fan. However, Martinez also would like to join a team where he has a clear path to a spot in the rotation, and that seems uncertain now with the Mets.<br /><br />The Diamondbacks are at least one more team showing interest in Martinez.</p> http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/100/64/thumb/Heyman_Jon.png 0 NY Jon Heyman New York 10084 40781 <div class="photo_container image_right"> <div class="photo"><img src="http://img.fannation.com/upload/si_blog_post_images/20161/t1_pedroblog.jpg" alt="T1_pedroblog" /></div> <div class="photo_attributes" style="text-align: left;">It wouldn't be shocking to see Pedro back in a Mets uni,<br />considering Omar Minaya's fondness of the pitcher.<br />AP<br /></div> </div> <p><strong>Pedro Martinez</strong> lost one potential suitor when the Indians signed <strong>Carl Pavano</strong>. Before securing Pavano with a contract for $1.5 million plus $5.3 million in incentives, the Indians had been pursuing Martinez, it was learned. The Indians never made a formal offer, but they were contemplating something in the $7 million range depending on how his health checked out.</p> <p style="text-align: left;">Pedro's longtime agent <strong>Fern Cuza</strong> told SI.com a couple weeks ago that four teams were showing interest in the Cooperstown-bound pitcher at the time. The Mets have had some interest, but their signing of <strong>Tim Redding</strong> might put Martinez on the back burner for now. At present, the Mets seem to be concentrating on <strong>Oliver Perez</strong>, with <strong>Randy Wolf</strong> seen as the more likely backup plan in case they don't get Perez.<br /><br />Perez can never be counted out when it comes to the Mets, since GM <strong>Omar Minaya</strong> is a big fan. However, Martinez also would like to join a team where he has a clear path to a spot in the rotation, and that seems uncertain now with the Mets.<br /><br />The Diamondbacks are at least one more team showing interest in Martinez.</p>