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  <updated-at type="datetime">2009-02-05T15:38:37-05:00</updated-at>
  <title>Manny, Dodgers nowhere near a deal</title>
  <published-at type="datetime">2009-02-03T15:30:29-05:00</published-at>
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  <created-at type="datetime">2009-02-03T15:30:29-05:00</created-at>
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          <created-at>2009-02-03T16:57:11-05:00</created-at>
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          <quoted-text>Miles apart .................. 1500 miles would be good, 2000 miles even better. The next offer made by the Dodgers should be 0 years @ $0. million. I've been a Dodger fan for 56 years. I don't want to see Manny in Dodger blue ever again. Let him take his monkey act somewhere else.</quoted-text>
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          <body>Wow.  Feeling strongly against Manny. You only had him for a couple of months, why so angry???</body>
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        <created-at>2009-02-05T15:38:37-05:00</created-at>
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        <quoted-text>Wow.  Feeling strongly against Manny. You only had him for a couple of months, why so angry???</quoted-text>
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        <body>Why?  Look at his history and his current unreasonable demands.  Fans have to be more selective of the star players they defend and support.  He broke a very sacred pro athlete rule--quitting on his team when they needed him, faking injuries, slacking on performance so he could get out of his contract.  Ask Boston fans and players why their is anger.  He's a first class, spoiled, self-centered jerk whose only love of the game is when he is the focal point of it.  Life and baseball in L.A. will go on fine without him.  Last seasons final two months was a fluke.  L.A. needs to build a whole TEAM not one man's EGO.</body>
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          <created-at>2009-02-03T15:58:20-05:00</created-at>
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          <body>I'm thinking maybe the Cubs will get Manny. New ownership, big splash.</body>
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        <created-at>2009-02-05T15:32:09-05:00</created-at>
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        <quoted-text>I'm thinking maybe the Cubs will get Manny. New ownership, big splash.</quoted-text>
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        <body>I think the new Cub ownership are more in the &amp;quot;businessmen&amp;quot; range then delusional fan.
Just throw 75 mil out there to make a splash?  That kind of &amp;quot;what the hell, it's only money attitude is what got this country in the mess it's in--let's don't drag down MLB in the process.  Manny has POOR long term investment potential.</body>
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        <created-at>2009-02-05T01:09:55-05:00</created-at>
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        <body>Is everybody serious!!!!

This guy is one of the best hitters to EVER play the game!! 

PERIOD.

And we are debating if he is worth 25 mil.

Does everybody forget he won 2 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!

SERIOUSLY PEOPLE.

THINK!!!!</body>
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        <created-at>2009-02-04T23:18:38-05:00</created-at>
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        <body>Oh, yeah, Heyman is in Boras' pocket alright.   Manny patient?  Why is it that NOBODY is beating down Manny's door?  Because he is flaky, lazy, can't be counted on to play hard.   If you give Manny a 3 or 4 year deal you don't know how much of that time Manny will decide he is happy and interested in actually putting out.  Heyman, you forgot to mention that didn't you?  Oops, Boras didn't include that statement in his memo, huh?</body>
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        <created-at>2009-02-04T18:49:52-05:00</created-at>
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        <body>If you look at the free agents available, the Dodgers could spend that money on Ben Sheets, Adam Dunn, and a reliever.  Dunn's 40 HRs, 100 RBIs, and an OBP of near .400 makes up for the K's.  Sheets would give them roughly 30 starts with an ERA around 3.00.  Boras/Ramirez can hold out forever, and all of MLB will be better off.</body>
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        <created-at>2009-02-04T17:29:50-05:00</created-at>
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        <body>I love how after it was noted that Heyman continued to use the &amp;quot;miles apart&amp;quot; tagline, it has now been changed to &amp;quot;nowhere near a deal.&amp;quot;  Sorry, Jon.  Did not mean to burst your continued use of the same old tagline to keep retreading the same old story.</body>
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        <created-at>2009-02-04T14:12:15-05:00</created-at>
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        <body>What Manny did in Boston disgacefull.  He decided he didn't want to play and shot his way out of town.  Contract be damned.  The Sox still owe him millions of dollars in deferred payments, what if they decide they don't want to pay him.  Manny's lawyers would sue stating that he had a contract and they'd win.
  Manny is a spoiled brat with a deadly bat, but something has to be done about his actions in Boston in '08.  Hopefully payback is happening right now.  No team should give him $40 mil over the next 2 years.  That's the amount he would have got in Boston if he honored his contract.  Better yet, let him wait for the $100 mil deal that will never come.</body>
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          <created-at>2009-02-04T12:28:06-05:00</created-at>
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          <body>&amp;quot;Take the $25 million, Manny. Then get down on your knees and show some gratitude.&amp;quot;

Mike Celizic is a contributor to NBCSports.com and a freelance writer based in New York.</body>
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        <created-at>2009-02-04T12:37:08-05:00</created-at>
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        <quoted-text>&quot;Take the $25 million, Manny. Then get down on your knees and show some gratitude.&quot;Mike Celizic is a contributor to NBCSports.com and a freelance writer based in New York.</quoted-text>
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        <body>Exactly. Manny is lucky anyone is even offering him a job after the stunts he pulled in Boston and with the current economy. Next offer I'd make to him if I'm the Dodgers is for 2 years and $40M. His stubbornnes should not be rewarded with a larger offer.</body>
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        <body>&amp;quot;Take the $25 million, Manny. Then get down on your knees and show some gratitude.&amp;quot;

Mike Celizic is a contributor to NBCSports.com and a freelance writer based in New York.</body>
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        <created-at>2009-02-04T12:27:35-05:00</created-at>
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        <body>Anyone else love how Heyman tries to turn this around and make the Dodgers the bad guys here? When you make comments like &amp;quot;Or it could mean they are trying to create the impression they doing their best.&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;The Dodgers would appear to badly need Ramirez, but the club-owning McCourts appear intent on getting a bargain after Ramirez saved their 2008 season while still being paid by the Red Sox.&amp;quot; it just seems Heyman is on Boras payroll and trying to create hype for Manny that just isn't there in the market. Times are tough for everyone and that is going to include Manny. He's either getting a high salary for 1 year or a not as high one for 2 years but not both. And right now the only team even offering him a job is the Dodgers. Boras and Manny have no leverage and overplayed their hand with this one and in the end they are going to have to crawl back to the negotiating table and take a lesser offer.</body>
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  <body>&lt;div class=&quot;photo_container image_right&quot;&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;photo&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.fannation.com/upload/si_blog_post_images/22522/manny-ramirez-blog23.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Manny-ramirez-blog23&quot; /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;photo_attributes&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Manny Ramirez carried the Dodgers into the NLCS in 2008.&lt;br /&gt;AP&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Dodgers made a one-year, $25 million offer to &lt;strong&gt;Manny Ramirez&lt;/strong&gt; that had about a 25-million-to-one chance of being accepted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Predictably, it wasn't.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ramirez turned down the offer that was announced by the Dodgers, and the sides are right where they were, which is far from a deal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Dodgers say they are still talking to Ramirez and hopeful to get something done with him. But it won't be anything quick, apparently. Ramirez is a very patient man, and he is thought to be willing to go into spring training to get the deal he wants, if need be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Dodgers have now made three offers but it appears none of them is in the ballpark of what Manny is seeking (the previous two offers were for arbitration and for $45 million over two years). Ramirez is believed to be seeking a four- or five-year deal for at least $25 million per, which means the sides are now at least $75 million apart.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Dodgers have announced both offers they made, which could mean they are serious and trying to do their best. Or it could mean they are trying to create the impression they doing their best. The Dodgers would appear to badly need Ramirez, but the club-owning McCourts appear intent on getting a bargain after Ramirez saved their 2008 season while still being paid by the Red Sox.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Giants are the other team that has said publicly they are interested in Ramirez. The Nationals still have money to spend but it's hard to guess beyond that. The Angels and Mets have indicated they aren't going to make a play for Ramirez.&lt;/p&gt;</body>
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  <intro>&lt;div class=&quot;photo_container image_right&quot;&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;photo&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.fannation.com/upload/si_blog_post_images/22522/manny-ramirez-blog23.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Manny-ramirez-blog23&quot; /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;photo_attributes&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Manny Ramirez carried the Dodgers into the NLCS in 2008.&lt;br /&gt;AP&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Dodgers made a one-year, $25 million offer to &lt;strong&gt;Manny Ramirez&lt;/strong&gt; that had about a 25-million-to-one chance of being accepted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Predictably, it wasn't.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ramirez turned down the offer that was announced by the Dodgers, and the sides are right where they were, which is far from a deal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Dodgers say they are still talking to Ramirez and hopeful to get something done with him. But it won't be anything quick, apparently. Ramirez is a very patient man, and he is thought to be willing to go into spring training to get the deal he wants, if need be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Dodgers have now made three offers but it appears none of them is in the ballpark of what Manny is seeking (the previous two offers were for arbitration and for $45 million over two years). Ramirez is believed to be seeking a four- or five-year deal for at least $25 million per, which means the sides are now at least $75 million apart.&lt;/p&gt;</intro>
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