Broncos won't lose much if they trade Cutler

2009-04-03T15:35:03-04:00

2009-04-01T15:25:47-04:00

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2009-04-03T15:35:02-04:00

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'94 Bearden Bear

Columbia 438000

114 Better off! R u kidding. This is a joke article, right?? The Broncos will probably win 3 or 4 games max. Everyone thinks McDaniels is some offensive messiah who makes doormat quarterbacks into stars. I'm not even sold on Cassel.Hell, I could throw 18 TD's with Moss,Welker,etc!! 4934612

2009-04-02T15:39:35-04:00

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flanders111

Lompoc 19461

what the heck is in the food you are eating, or are you on drugs, lol!

105 Why? Did I amaze you with my bow hunting skillz? My computer hacking skillz? Dang..... Serious though -- his diabetes is manageable so that should not be an issue. Type 1 is different from Type 2.....my son has 1 and it is because your pancreas shuts down...can still function as a normal human being ....and my son plays football as well. Obviously not on CUtler's level....but still doable 4916788

2009-04-02T21:58:11-04:00

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NEinSWPA

Fayette City 23571

Why? Did I amaze you with my bow hunting skillz? My computer hacking skillz? Dang.....Serious though -- his diabetes is manageable so that should not be an issue.Type 1 is different from Type 2.....my son has 1 and it is because your pancreas shuts down...can still function as a normal human being ....and my son plays football as well.Obviously not on CUtler's level....but still doable

113 i wasn't referring to the diabetes, i certainly do not meant to insult or question anyone with diabetes... that is serious... i meant the non diabetes related second half of your post.... 4922548

2009-04-02T08:35:02-04:00

SCPAG

State College 748683

64 Everyone on this board is completely missing what is really going on. Cutler is not driving this train, Cutler did not make the decision not to talk to the Coach or Owner. This is completely and totally the work of his agent. His AGENT is one driving the train. Who really stands to make a ton of money by getting Cutler a new contract? When does Cutler become a Free Agent? Although I don't know I bet he is one of the players that fell into the trap caused when the owners opted out of the CBA which changes the Free Agency threshold to 6 years instead of 4 plus some other clauses that are more pro-Owner than pro-Player when it comes to free agency. So it appears to me that his Agent is driving this train to ensure a payday that mostly likely have been nixed by the Owners when they dropped the CBA. The Agent used Cutler's displeasure with the departure of the Coach and Offensive Coordinator and the newness of a 1st time Head Coach, who probably doesn't have a ton of real leadership experience, to his advantage. Yes, Cutler is going along with his Agent, but remember he is only 25 and I am 100% positive his Agent is a seriously smooth talker or he wouldn't be in that business. If I had been the Coach and Owner when the player showed up to that first meeting with his Agent I would have cancelled the meeting immediately. The Agent has no business being in a meeting between the Coach and Player, one on one counseling is just that, one on one. Isn't this the same agent involved in the Brett Favre fiasco last year and the Steve McNair fiasco a few years ago? Seems like the same deal to me all over again. 4908025

2009-04-02T17:36:26-04:00

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Curly Lambeau

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Everyone on this board is completely missing what is really going on. Cutler is not driving this train, Cutler did not make the decision not to talk to the Coach or Owner. This is completely and totally the work of his agent. His AGENT is one driving the train. Who really stands to make a ton of money by getting Cutler a new contract? When does Cutler become a Free Agent? Although I don't know I bet he is one of the players that fell into the trap caused when the owners opted out of the CBA which changes the Free Agency threshold to 6 years instead of 4 plus some other clauses that are more pro-Owner than pro-Player when it comes to free agency. So it appears to me that his Agent is driving this train to ensure a payday that mostly likely have been nixed by the Owners when they dropped the CBA. The Agent used Cutler's displeasure with the departure of the Coach and Offensive Coordinator and the newness of a 1st time Head Coach, who probably doesn't have a ton of real leadership experience, to his advantage.Yes, Cutler is going along with his Agent, but remember he is only 25 and I am 100% positive his Agent is a seriously smooth talker or he wouldn't be in that business. If I had been the Coach and Owner when the player showed up to that first meeting with his Agent I would have cancelled the meeting immediately. The Agent has no business being in a meeting between the Coach and Player, one on one counseling is just that, one on one.Isn't this the same agent involved in the Brett Favre fiasco last year and the Steve McNair fiasco a few years ago? Seems like the same deal to me all over again.

112 Bingo. We have a winner. Disinformation, rumors, spin, discontent, publicity stunt after publicity stunt, and it's all management's fault... Bus Cook is running his play-book to a T. 4919162

2009-04-02T17:19:10-04:00

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calliaume

Naperville 415058

111 First of all, let me give you credit for a well-reasoned article. Having read the columnists at a competing web site, I'm wondering if their columnists were hired off the street after they were thrown out of a sports bar. That aside, I think Cutler's numbers are *comparable* to what other QBs have done in their third year. Here's a quick check: Peyton Manning: 62.5%, 4,413 yards, 33 TDs, 15 ints, 10-6 Ben Roethlisberger: 59.7%, 3,513 yards, 18 TDs, 23 ints, 7-9 Tom Brady: 62.1%, 3,764 yards, 28 TDs, 14 ints, 9-7 Chad Pennington: 68.9%, 3,120 yards, 22 TDs, 6 ints, 8-4 Carson Palmer: 67.8%, 3,836 yards, 32 TDs, 12 ints, 11-5 Philip Rivers: 61.7%, 3,388 yards, 22 TDs, 9 ints, 14-2 Eli Manning: 57.7%, 3,244 yards, 24 TDs, 18 ints, 8-8 Donovan McNabb: 57.8%, 3,233 yards, 25 TDs, 12 ints, 11-5 Tony Romo: 65.3%, 2.903 yards, 19 TDs, 13 ints, 6-4 Drew Brees: 57.6%, 2,108 yards, 11 TDs, 15 ints, 2-9 Jay Cutler: 62.3%, 4,526 yards, 25 TDs, 18 ints, 8-8 There are some performances that are off the charts (Pennington) and some that are worse than expected (Brees), but overall, it looks like Cutler's right in there. Obviously, this doesn't take into consideration opponents. The point is, trading for Cutler would be safer than drafting a QB -- which is what most of the teams you've mentioned are trying to avoid. 4918826

2009-04-02T17:07:18-04:00

lwafn7

Lockport 574076

110 Cutler is 13-1 in games that his defense allows 21 or fewer points. This means that in the other 23 games his defense allowed 22 or more points. That is a ton of points. I am sure that is Cutler's fault too. 4918586

2009-04-02T16:33:47-04:00

waynewonder

Wilmington 211223

109 McLovin, They may not lose or gain much in the win/loss department, but what guarantee do they have of getting a good QB with one of those two first round picks they want in exchange for Cutler. Thy will have to pony up the money for a first round guy who will have to learn McDaniel's complex offense, one that apparently Jay Cutler, a three year vet, was not up to the task of learning. I almost feel like SI pays you to write something inflammatory just to get a good discussion going. If that was your goal, I am guilty as charged of engaging in this. 4917882

2009-04-02T16:00:41-04:00

Yourfavoriteairman

Warner Robins 739177

108 This is not the first time a player and coach didn't like each other. Cutler isn't a great QB, I don't believe he will win a game, like a Montana, Elway, Favre did. THose who have said, he needs a running game, and a better defense are foolish. Name me a team/QB that doesn't need a better defense or running game. Cutler is not a Hall of Famer and what ever team is foolish to get him will be a mediocre team at best. 4917276

2009-04-02T15:55:06-04:00

bobazep

Seattle 90833

107 That article couldn't have been more accurate! I mean your exactly right Perloff, Cutler hasn't proven himself as an elite quarterback yet and maybe never will. So it's good that they will trade him and put all their eggs in the basket of their hall-of-fame veteran coach. What's that you say, they fired him and brought in someone else. Well at least his replacement is such an upgrade at that job. What's that you say, he's never been a head coach before. Well at least you can credit him for all the success his previous teams' offense had. Wait, his previous team had Tom Brady and Randy Moss too? A half-trained monkey could have designed plays where Brady drops back and bombs it Moss. A fully-trained monkey would also be able to diagram check downs to Welker as well. So to recap we have a whiny spoiled brat at qb being coached by a smarmy, lying weasel who doesn't have much professional experience. It's not too late to $*&^-can both of them and just take a chance with what's left. At least at that point the rest of the team would know that they are working with a couple of men. Or since there's only like 6 years difference between the two, put'em in the cage and let them fight it out. First one to cry loses. Shouldn't take long, unless they can't agree on the time or place. 4917145

2009-04-02T15:46:35-04:00

BigMike100

Noti 498693

106 Boot em. Anything that slows Denver down will make the Chargers schedule that much easier. Sweeping the AFC West next year should be a lock. go bolts 4916982

2009-04-02T15:27:36-04:00

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NEinSWPA

Fayette City 23571

Ahhh.....NO!He can regulate his blood sugars with a pump...very simple and very easy to use. Athletes at every level use this....no big deal. He has Type 1 diabetes (genetics) not Type 2 (I'm a big fat lard that loves to eat)...big difference...Yes it could become serious but it could also get no worse. He seems to have done fine, stats wise, so far..... Broncos front office is inept for hiring a 32 yr old punk with zero head coaching skillz who thinks because he had Tom Brady....he is an all-world QB coach...think again.Cutler to the Lions..they go 8-8 (huge improvement); Broncos with Chris Simms (worse than Ryan Leaf) go 4-12 at best...good luck. Too bad really because great fans (not my team) and a great place to watch football

104 what the heck is in the food you are eating, or are you on drugs, lol! 4916544

2009-04-02T15:39:35-04:00

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flanders111

Lompoc 19461

what the heck is in the food you are eating, or are you on drugs, lol!

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<div class="photo_container image_center"> <div class="photo"><img src="http://img.fannation.com/upload/si_blog_post_images/31101/tx_cutler598.jpg" alt="Jay Cutler" width="598" height="359" /></div> <div class="photo_attributes" style="text-align:right;">The Broncos intend to trade starting quarterback Jay Cutler before the NFL draft due to irreconcilable differences.  :: AP</div> </div> <p> </p> <p><strong>Jay</strong> <strong>Cutler</strong>’s success in Denver has been blown way out of proportion, and new coach <strong>Josh McDaniels</strong> was right to have questions about the fourth-year quarterback.</p> <p>Cutler earned a Pro Bowl berth in 2008 based on his 4,526 passing yards. But in more important metrics, namely wins (8-8) and TD-to-INT differential (25-to-18), Cutler came up short.</p> <p>Many of Cutler’s biggest yardage games ended up in the loss column -- the Broncos were 3-4 when he threw for more than 300 yards. Denver’s turnstile defense upped the tempo of the game and gave Cutler plenty of opportunities to gain yards in between the 20s, even if those yards didn’t do much to help the Broncos win.</p> <p>Cutler also benefited from a defensively challenged schedule last season. Thanks in large part to his porous AFC West competition, Cutler faced defenses that ranked in the NFL’s bottom 10 in a majority of his games. The highest-ranked defense he faced all year was No. 9 Tampa Bay. Cutler may think twice about wanting to leave Denver when he looks at the schedules of the teams interested in him.</p> <p>Cutler also might find life tougher outside of <strong>Mike</strong> <strong>Shanahan</strong>’s offense. Shanahan’s offense regularly landed near the top spot in total yardage throughout his years in Denver. Cutler gained more passing yards than his predecessors, but that’s mainly because all the injuries to the Denver running backs over the last two seasons forced Shanahan to go to the air more than he would have liked. While Cutler did a decent job in that offense, Shanahan probably could have found a lot of quarterbacks capable of putting up big numbers.</p> <p>McDaniels may be young, but he’s been around a fantastic quarterback his whole career and knows what it takes to succeed at that position. If he wasn’t sold on Cutler, that should make other teams around the NFL nervous. For all the highlight-worthy passes Cutler made, McDaniels had to wince at the mental mistakes and forced throws that burned the Broncos last season.</p> <p>It’s probably not an accident that the teams reportedly interested in Cutler all have iffy track records when it comes to evaluating the position -- take, for example, the Bucs, 49ers, Jets, Lions and Redskins. Big arms or big stats have fooled all of those teams in the recent past. Now, as they try to put together the right offer to land Cutler, they’re lining up to make the same mistake again.</p> 60181 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/397/2/thumb/Perloff.jpg 550 NY

Andrew Perloff

New York 3992