Kyle Orton could throw more TDs than Jay Cutler

2009-04-07T16:01:23-04:00

2009-04-03T12:36:03-04:00

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2009-04-03T12:36:03-04:00

2009-04-07T16:01:23-04:00

Ape Trax

North Hollywood 352163

109 The fact is that fans in Chicago don't know what a good quarterback is, they haven't had one in their lifetime. For some odd reason there is a love-affair with Orton in Chicago that's truly unexplainable. He was the recipient of a fairly good defense for most of his time here and has never won a game purely on talent. That's going to the be the difference between Cutler and Orton...Cutler is going to win games on his talent and Orton will never do that. 4972488

2009-04-07T11:17:13-04:00

AlmostGlue

Elgin 752275

108 Orton in fine. He is the definition of a game manager and may be a good fit for Denver. However, I think too many fans don't appreciate how passes that are just a few feet off target (too high, too low, off stride, etc.) effect the passing game. The reason the Bears kept running Grossman out there despite his knack for throwing interceptions, he was much more accurate than Orton. Grossman's problem was / is that he got rattled and threw passes into double and tripple coverage. Orton's problem is that he is always close to making the big play - if only he could hit the receiver in stride. I am skeptical that "good" receivers can solve that problem. Denver - you have a coach killer at QB. He is going to tease you to death. 4966682

2009-04-06T23:17:17-04:00

Mr. Woodard

Windsor Heights 517055

107 "bad wrap" crap perloff I knew you were not a good writer but I expected you to know the difference between rap and wrap. rap as in rap sheet, vocals imitating music - wrap like a package - man you suck 4963305

2009-04-06T20:33:01-04:00

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greenmonster418

Clermont 610775

106 Cutler is a dopey, chin-less, whining gob of snot. 4962634

2009-04-06T16:12:39-04:00

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POW

Denver 351673

I think Orton is solid (for the most part) if he has weapons to throw too which he will in Denver. But the problem with Orton is the lack of his game--he makes bad decisions at times not always looking checking off the most open receiver in plays. Moreover, he's pretty immobile. But the biggest difference, which the Bears will assume that Cutler will provide is his 3rd down conversions. Its not so much that Cutler will be putting up tons of points on the board for the Bears--that won't happen for years. Its his control that he can bring to the game, by increasing the time of possession, which will allow the defense to rest more so they can eb at full force when they go in. That has been the Achilles heel of the Bears. They have been and obviously will be a defensive oriented team. But the vulnerability is that there defense practically plays their entire game without a rest. Cutler will change that direction.

104 ? I think the one thing Cutler has to improve on is not making bad decisions, probably his weakest football characteric is football smarts, and we were absolutely terrible in converting 3rd downs last season. And this article is saying which QB is better, just saying Orton is going to put up better numbers this year, obviously Cutler has more talent. I also get a kick out of how Chicago thinks that Cutler is going to click with all his subpar Vandy teammates, come on. Bennett is a number 3 with average talent and Williams is coming of back surgery, he will be maybe 80% this season. Pace, I bet he doesn't start. 4959834

2009-04-06T17:38:25-04:00

Dez3

chicago 744696

? I think the one thing Cutler has to improve on is not making bad decisions, probably his weakest football characteric is football smarts, and we were absolutely terrible in converting 3rd downs last season.And this article is saying which QB is better, just saying Orton is going to put up better numbers this year, obviously Cutler has more talent. I also get a kick out of how Chicago thinks that Cutler is going to click with all his subpar Vandy teammates, come on. Bennett is a number 3 with average talent and Williams is coming of back surgery, he will be maybe 80% this season. Pace, I bet he doesn't start.

105 And now you'll have Orton making all those 3rd down throws. BWAHAHAHAHAHHAH! 4961053

2009-04-03T13:33:26-04:00

ChiMavrick

Evanston 192185

3 I think Orton is solid (for the most part) if he has weapons to throw too which he will in Denver. But the problem with Orton is the lack of his game--he makes bad decisions at times not always looking checking off the most open receiver in plays. Moreover, he's pretty immobile. But the biggest difference, which the Bears will assume that Cutler will provide is his 3rd down conversions. Its not so much that Cutler will be putting up tons of points on the board for the Bears--that won't happen for years. Its his control that he can bring to the game, by increasing the time of possession, which will allow the defense to rest more so they can eb at full force when they go in. That has been the Achilles heel of the Bears. They have been and obviously will be a defensive oriented team. But the vulnerability is that there defense practically plays their entire game without a rest. Cutler will change that direction. 4931908

2009-04-06T16:12:39-04:00

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POW

Denver 351673

2009-04-06T14:20:42-04:00

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Packers Superbowl 2010

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103 OK. He is better than Orton!!!! Not saying a whole lot there..... 4957696

2009-04-06T14:13:19-04:00

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Packers Superbowl 2010

Fort Lauderdale 494707

102 There is no way Cutler will make all pro this year. Who was all pro in the AFC? Brett Favre? What a joke. Cutler isn't that great. He had a decent supporting cast in Denver. The Bears won't make the playoffs this year either. Aaron Rodgers is by far the best QB in the NFC north. Cutler is a joke. 4957538

2009-04-06T11:16:01-04:00

Dez3

chicago 744696

101 The comparison between Orton and Cutler is just ridiculous! I mean c'mon. Really? I mean, REALLY? KYLE ORTON? No... I mean REALLY? 4953785

2009-04-06T10:13:06-04:00

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Joba B. Good

Bristol 644026

100 IF (big if) Brandon Marshall plays this season, I would definitely think this offense will thrive. They just need a RB and some defense... and then MAYBE they can actually play some legit football. 4952606

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<div class="photo_container image_center"> <div class="photo"><img src="http://img.fannation.com/upload/si_blog_post_images/31421/tx_orton598.jpg" alt="Tx_orton598" width="598" /></div> <div class="photo_attributes" style="text-align:right;">New Broncos quarterback Kyle Orton threw 18 touchdowns and 12 INTs last season for the Bears.  :: AP</div> </div>   The Bears mortgaged part of their future to get Jay Cutler, but the Broncos will suffer very little in the short term with Kyle Orton as their new quarterback. In fact, if Orton wins the starting job – which isn't a certainty --  he'll throw more touchdowns than Cutler in 2009. While throwing more touchdown passes wouldn't mean Orton is better, you'd still think if a team gives up two first-round picks for a QB, they'd at least get more points out of him. Here are five reasons Orton could out-score Cutler: 1. Receiving Corps: The Broncos' Brandon Marshall is a bona fide No. 1 receiver. Like Terrell Owens, Marshall is the kind of target that helps any quarterback bolster his stats. And the speedy Eddie Royal is the perfect No. 2 guy. The Bears need to do something to improve in this area. Cutler will have a hard time getting the ball to wideouts Rashied Davis, Earl Bennett and Devin Hester consistently. 2. Offensive line: The Broncos kept Cutler's jersey very clean all last season (11 sacks all season), whereas Bears' QBs had little time in the pocket last season. Chicago added Orlando Pace, but there's a lot of risk with the injury-laden 33-year-old left tackle, and overall the Bears still aren't strong up front. 3. Defense: The Broncos didn't do enough to fix their sieve-like defenses, and Orton could be racking up numbers from a couple touchdowns behind all season. Even though the Bears' defense has lost a little of its ferocity, coach Lovie Smith wants to play ball control offense and win with stout D. 4. Josh McDaniels – The offensive wunderkind didn't seem to have any interest in running the ball in New England. And he has no one to run the ball in Denver anyway. McDaniles should go to the air as much as he did with the Patriots the last two seasons. Meanwhile, the Bears will try to establish running back Matt Forte as one their primary offensive weapons. 5.   Orton is underrated: Orton looked very good until he hurt his ankle last season in Chicago. He may not have Cutler's arm strength, but he has a stronger arm than Matt Cassel, who looked pretty good in McDaniels' offense. Orton probably just gets a bad wrap for having playing in the QB vortex that is Chicago. Let me know what you think. If I'm wrong, don't hesitate to let me know this Fall. 60521 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/397/2/thumb/Perloff.jpg 550 NY

Andrew Perloff

New York 3992