Against The Grain -- Week 7

2009-11-01T18:45:08-05:00

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29 Perloff... you suck 7490655

2009-10-27T00:33:05-04:00

norcalhops

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2009-10-27T00:32:21-04:00

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2009-10-26T10:51:41-04:00

Hoosier Horseman

Bloomington 901293

14 Some of Manning's individual career NFL records: Highest passer rating, season: 121.1 (2004) Most seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards: 9 (1999???2004, 2006???2008) Most consecutive seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards: 6 (1999???2004) Most consecutive seasons with at least 25 touchdown passes: 11 (1998???2008; current) Most games with a perfect passer rating, career: 4 (includes 1 playoff game) Most consecutive games started to open a career by a quarterback (current) Most consecutive games with at least 2 touchdown passes: 13 (games 1???13, 2004) Most consecutive games with at least 4 touchdown passes: 5 (games 7???11, 2004) Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes (season, 2004): 6 (tied with 1984 Marino) Most games with at least 5 touchdown passes, career: 7 (includes 1 playoff game) One of only six QB???s with at least 6 touchdown passes in two games (tied with Sammy Baugh, Y.A. Tittle, Daryle Lamonica, Charley Johnson and George Blanda) Highest career TDs/game average for any QB with at least 150 TDs: 1.89 TDs/game41 Highest career completions/game average (min. 100 games played): 21.8174 Most consecutive games with a passer rating over 100: 9 (games 5???13 of 2004 season; record tied by Carson Palmer, 2004???05 and Tom Brady, 2006???07)175 Highest completion percentage by a QB in one month in NFL history (min. 75 attempts): 81.8% (December 2008) Most career games with a completion percentage of 70% or higher (min. 10 attempts) Most seasons with 12+ wins as a starter (regular season only): 7 (1999, 2003???2008) Only QB with at least 12 wins as a starter in 6 consecutive seasons (2003???2008) Only QB with seven straight seasons of 10+ wins as a starter (2002-2008) First QB to defeat the other 31 teams in the regular season (Tom Brady did this later the same day, and Brett Favre did it the following week) 7404130

2009-10-26T22:54:36-04:00

PAP

No City 877259

Some of Manning's individual career NFL records:Highest passer rating, season: 121.1 (2004)Most seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards: 9 (1999???2004, 2006???2008)Most consecutive seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards: 6 (1999???2004)Most consecutive seasons with at least 25 touchdown passes: 11 (1998???2008; current)Most games with a perfect passer rating, career: 4 (includes 1 playoff game)Most consecutive games started to open a career by a quarterback (current)Most consecutive games with at least 2 touchdown passes: 13 (games 1???13, 2004)Most consecutive games with at least 4 touchdown passes: 5 (games 7???11, 2004)Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes (season, 2004): 6 (tied with 1984 Marino)Most games with at least 5 touchdown passes, career: 7 (includes 1 playoff game)One of only six QB???s with at least 6 touchdown passes in two games (tied with Sammy Baugh, Y.A. Tittle, Daryle Lamonica, Charley Johnson and George Blanda)Highest career TDs/game average for any QB with at least 150 TDs: 1.89 TDs/game41Highest career completions/game average (min. 100 games played): 21.8174Most consecutive games with a passer rating over 100: 9 (games 5???13 of 2004 season; record tied by Carson Palmer, 2004???05 and Tom Brady, 2006???07)175Highest completion percentage by a QB in one month in NFL history (min. 75 attempts): 81.8% (December 2008) Most career games with a completion percentage of 70% or higher (min. 10 attempts)Most seasons with 12+ wins as a starter (regular season only): 7 (1999, 2003???2008)Only QB with at least 12 wins as a starter in 6 consecutive seasons (2003???2008)Only QB with seven straight seasons of 10+ wins as a starter (2002-2008)First QB to defeat the other 31 teams in the regular season (Tom Brady did this later the same day, and Brett Favre did it the following week)

24 And Manning is the only right-handed QB who is able to cut the toenails on his right foot with his left hand while washing his dog with the other! My God! How many meaningless QB stats do we have to endure? I'm sure if you investigate further you could find just about as many meaningless facts about Marino, Montana, Elway, Favre, Brady, etc,etc. I'm watching the MNF game and they just stated McNabb just went over 30,000 career passing yards. It amazed me they didn't say something like "McNabb becomes the first African-American QB to pass for at least 25,000 of these 30,000 yards while standing at least 8 yards behind the line scrimmage. My goodness, even Warren Moon never accomplished this feat". I mean, is there no end to meaningless stats? You are obviously a Manning and Colt fan. Congratulations! Good team and a great QB. Aren't you just waiting for the announcer at the next Colts game to say: "Ladies and gentlemen, that was Jeff Saturday's 1,234th consecutive block of a nose tackle with a playing weight of 330 or more pounds. Let's here it for Jeff"! See what I mean? It never ends. The NFL has to employ at least five people at their DEPARTMENT OF MEANINGLESS AND USELESS STATISTICS! 7416616

2009-10-26T18:01:59-04:00

TheOrangeCrush87

West Haven 511797

23 Wow.. Look at all the hate on this particular forum. But you know what? I can't defend Perloff because I agree more with what any of these guys have commented. As a matter of fact, everything that I have read of Perloff isn't close to being true, and it's all a load of horse manure. Why are you even writing Perloff? I can't believe I spend the time to even look at your column. My sister who knows nothing about football could make more sense. 7413629

2009-10-26T08:50:15-04:00

Southside ATL

Stockbridge 417543

6 What makes you question Matt Ryan's Golden boy status?? He has only been in the NFL 1 1/2 years and in his rookie season threw for almost 3,500 yds, 16 TDs, 11 int, with a 61.1 comp pct and a rating of 87... In his sophomore year, he is already about to surpass his rookie season TD total with 11 on the year and his comp pct is almost 63%. What more can you ask from your young, 2nd year QB? Ok, last night he made a few mistakes but he is still learning. And in my opinion he will probably end up being much better than Peyton Manning considering their rookie seasons. Granted, Manning didn't have a power running game and had more than 200+ passing atempts than Ryan, but Manning's rookie season stats were 3,739 yds, 26 TDs, 28 int, 56.7 comp pct and a QB rating of 71.2... 7401608

2009-10-26T16:58:19-04:00

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What makes you question Matt Ryan's Golden boy status?? He has only been in the NFL 1 1/2 years and in his rookie season threw for almost 3,500 yds, 16 TDs, 11 int, with a 61.1 comp pct and a rating of 87... In his sophomore year, he is already about to surpass his rookie season TD total with 11 on the year and his comp pct is almost 63%. What more can you ask from your young, 2nd year QB? Ok, last night he made a few mistakes but he is still learning. And in my opinion he will probably end up being much better than Peyton Manning considering their rookie seasons. Granted, Manning didn't have a power running game and had more than 200+ passing atempts than Ryan, but Manning's rookie season stats were 3,739 yds, 26 TDs, 28 int, 56.7 comp pct and a QB rating of 71.2...

22 compare Ryan to Aaron Rodgers in his second year starting. 7412565

2009-10-26T13:50:36-04:00

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SafetyBlitz

Calabasas 5597

21 1. Most obvious prediction ever. 2. Houston can't get much of a running game going, so they have to pass. Schaub is passing about 25% more than he did last season...think that might have something to do with Schaub's increased yardage? Same for the Steelers and Big Ben, until they rediscovered the rush the last couple of weeks. (Ya think Holmes and Ward catching just about anything within reach might have something to do with his success?) As for Orton, it's a lot tougher to get intercepted when you throw nothing but short passes. And Favre has Peterson and Taylor to keep defenses more than honest. Never has he had a backfield that good in any of his other seasons. Basically, you're taking a supposition and trying to make the stats fit without really looking at other factors. Surprise. 3. Yet all those bad QB's supposedly have everything tilted in their favor? Nice job of arguing against your own point, with a flimsy-at-best rationalization for it. 4. Ryan is not Manning, and won't match Manning's career. Period. 5 through 10. Way to state the obvious, again. And again. 7408544

2009-10-26T13:40:27-04:00

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Glendale 855156

20 I'm trying hard, but having a difficult time finding anything "Against the Grain" here. The only scathing comments you're getting are from Broncos fans (one myself) not letting you off the hook for earlier articles. That at least proves you know how to keep an audience. But you'll loose it fast if in week 14 the only thing we can find to harp on you about is that 4-4 pick! 7408308

<div class="photo_container image_right"> <div class="photo"><img src="http://img.fannation.com/upload/si_blog_post_images/45821/favre.jpg" alt="Favre" width="298" height="407" /></div> <div class="photo_attributes" style="text-align:right;">With a team like this, Brett Favre is likey to return in 2010. Scott Cunningham/Getty Images</div> </div> A weekly NFL column that heads in the opposite direction of your average pro football analysis. 1. Pencil it in right now: Brett Favre will play in 2010. Even in a losing effort, Adrian Peterson, Percy Harvin and Sidney Rice made plays in a losing effort against a tough Pittsburgh defense and will create too attractive a situation for Favre to turn away next offseason. 2.  Passing is too easy in the NFL right now. The accumulation of rule changes, most recently protecting quarterbacks and receivers from hard hits, has created numbers that look ridiculous in the scope of NFL history. Good-to-average quarterbacks are putting up numbers that are hard to believe, and future Hall of Famers are having their way with defenses: Consider: --The Texans’ Matt Schaub is on track to throw for more than 4,500 and 36 touchdowns. --The Packers’ Aaron Rodgers completed 16 of 20 passes with three touchdowns against the Browns on Sunday, and has 11 TDs and just two picks on the season. If you look at the numbers, Rodgers, with a 110.8 passer rating, is better than Favre ever was. --The Chargers’  Philip Rivers hasn’t thrown an interception since Week 2. --The Broncos’ Kyle Orton has nine touchdowns and one interception on the season. --The Steelers’ Ben Roethlisberger had his worst statistical day of the season on Sunday (14-of-26 for 175 yards) and is still completing over 70 percent of his passes this season. His career best is 65.5 percent in 2003. --Favre completed 34 of 51 passes in a losing effort against Pittsburgh. He’s completed 69 percent of his passes this season. His career best is 66.5 percent in 2007. Does anyone else find it weird he’s having one of his best seasons at this age? That’s because it’s so easy to pass right now. --Peyton Manning and Drew Brees are so good, the numbers aren’t necessary. And don’t forget Tom Brady, who may be having an off year, but has thrown nine TDs in his last two games. 3. On the flip side, even with the across-the-board improvement in NFL passing, bad quarterbacks are worse than ever. Here’s my best explanation: the good teams moving the ball so well in the air forces the bad teams that can’t throw to give up on the run and put the ball up even though they shouldn’t. That means a lot of bad down situations, lots of blitzes, and lots of mistakes. 4.  Can the media-Matt Ryan love affair stop now? Good young quarterback, but all the talk of Ryan being the next Peyton Manning is way too early. Just ask Tony Romo, who led the Cowboys past Ryan and the Falcons today. We love to put QBs on a pedestal and either rip them down or worship them. Just give Ryan some time before anointing him a superstar. 5. Coming into the season, Leon Washington was the only bona fide Jets weapon. The rest of the offense still has a lot to prove now that Washington is out of for the season, but the emergence of rookie Shonn Greene is a significant silver lining. Greene surprised the Jets with his ability to catch the ball in training camp, and has more speed than Thomas Jones and more power than Washington. 6. The Saints’ 46-34 win over the Dolphins will end up being their most impressive out-of-division road victory this season. New Orleans has a tough home schedule ( Jets, Giants, Patriots, Cowboys), but drew a great road slate. They visited the Eagles when Donovan McNabb was out, won easily at Buffalo, and visit St. Louis and Washington. The Saints may end the season without a signature road win, but it won’t matter since they have a great chance to get homefield advantage throughout the playoffs with that schedule. 7. A FOX graphic noted that this was the first time in NFL history three teams have gotten through Week 7 undefeated: Indianapolis, Denver and New Orleans.  Of those three teams, the Saints have the best shot to reach the Super Bowl by a longshot. Not necessarily a knock on the Colts and Broncos, but the AFC playoffs will be a lot tougher. 8. As notable as receiver Miles Austin’s rise in Dallas has been, Roy Williams’ lack of effectiveness is almost as glaring. Romo has no confidence in the former Lions wideout and it affects the way he throws to him. Why not just admit trading for him was a mistake and put Patrick Crayton back into the starting lineup? The Cowboys would be unwise to keep throwing it to Williams just to prove a point. 9. Not a great few weeks for the Wildcat as Michael Vick does nothing in Philly and the Dolphins lose despite running it effectively. But there was one signature Wildcat play in Week 7 that almost happened – Cardinals cornerback Antrel Rolle throwing a bomb to a wide open Larry Fitzgerald. The play was the Wildcat at its best, confusing the defense and getting Arizona’s best player open. But for some reason, Fitzgerald dropped it and a holding penalty was called on the line anyway. Baby steps, but we’re going to see effective throwing out of the Wildcat soon. 10. Recent history is on Sam Bradford’s side. How can teams overlook the Oklahoma quarterback in next year’s draft when other quarterbacks have had so much success after shoulder surgery. Half the league still regrets reading too much into Drew Brees’ shoulder injury. Brett Favre is playing like a 30-year-old just months after arthroscopic shoulder surgery. Tom Brady underwent minor shoulder surgery back in 2004 and has since rewritten the record book. Even Chad Pennington squeezed out another Pro Bowl season after multiple surgeries.  Bradford might be hurthing now, but he will probably end up having a better career because he drops a few slots in the first round and avoids landing on one of the league’s worst teams.    83321 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/397/2/thumb/Perloff.jpg 550 NY

Andrew Perloff

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