Westbrook, Manning, NFL and HGH

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2007-12-19T17:58:53-05:00

Bears fan in Canada

No City 218101

Westbrook's play was brilliant. However I saw another brilliant play on November 11 (week 10) that got no press (and from their reaction I believe the announcers didn't even realize the brilliance of the play). The score was Philly 26 - Washington 25 with 2:18 to play in the game. Philly had the ball on Washington's 10 (first down) and, I belive, Washington was out of time-outs. On the first down the ball was handed off to Westbrook who had a big hole to walk into the endzone, basically Washington let him score. This made the score 33-25 with 2:12 to play. If Washington had stopped him on all 3 downs there would have been approximately 30 seconds left in the game and the score would have been 29-25, making it nearly imposiible for Washington to come back to score a touchdown. Although Washington still lost this play (allowing Westbrook to score) gave them a chance to come back to tie the game. 728633

2007-12-19T15:50:14-05:00

Bill in College Park

College Park 217862

Re: The Westbrook play. Go back a week to the Detroit - Dallas game. At about the 4 minute mark, with Detroit nursing a 6-point lead, a Detroit receiver took a pass for a first down on a crossing route and ambled out of bounds, stopping the clock, rather than turning up field and keeping the clock alive, albeit, taking a nice hard hit. THOSE 30 seconds were the time at the end that Dallas needed to mount the winning drive!!! My mental view was that it was not a "heads-up" play. Bill in College Park 727564

2007-12-19T15:33:03-05:00

<Jon>

Galion 217684

<<<Let's see, the Colts are ahead by a TD, there's five seconds left, take a penalty or take a knee and the game is over> So, Manning goes deep attempting another TD. Why? What for? To humiliate Oakland? To punish them for being lousy and suddenly playing a little bit tough? What's this about? Where is the outcry at the Colts for trying to embarass the professionals on the other side of the ball? Wasn't this an example of trying to unnecessarily running up the score? If the Pats did it there would be public outrage across the land. The Colts try it and nary a word.>>> You don't understand the situation. It's 4th down, so kneeling is out of the question and taking a penalty doesn't do you any good (contrary to the previous poster, there would not be a 10 second runoff in this situation). The only options are to punt, or, as the Colts did, run a play that used up 5 seconds of clock. Now, does it take a braniac to think of this? Absolutely not. Does it take a brainiac to do what Brian Westbrook did? Absolutely not. However, you do have to plan ahead and more importantly, have the presence of mind to recognize the situation for what it is and execute it correctly. If Westbrook stops on the 1 and the Cowboys still have timeouts left, it doesn't make nearly as much sense. (Although some, myself included, will still point out that it does make some sense). Likewise, if Manning doesn't manage to use up enough time to wind the clock down to zero, it's a poor decision. 727348

2007-12-19T14:15:38-05:00

Sam P

Dallas 217774

Peter, How can a player like Welker be overlooked for the Pro Bowl? His and TJ's numbers will be essentially the same at the end of the year, with one gigantic exception. While TJ will be home having finished up a season with solid stats for a less than mediocre team. Welker will be playing in the playoffs and possibly the super bowl for one of the most storied teams in NFL history. It makes no sense whatsoever! 726686

2007-12-19T13:50:55-05:00

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redskinfanmx

Tuxtla Gutierrez 166475

Peter King: First I want to thank you for your MMQB &TMQB columns, they help me see football as a hole nos just numbers and scores. Your comments make me think "outside the circle" on little things like Martin run for a good cause or Westbrook play, on wich I will say this ..... Back to the eagles at redskins game, the defense of washington let Westbrook score to put the lead up to 9 or 10 points and gave Washington a mere chance to try win the game. They came very short, but they have that chance. Dallas did the same, they let the eagles run it to the endzone and Westrook backfire them with dive at the 1 yard line ( Homlgren did the same with Green Bay at the Super Bowl against Denver and the Packers almost make a comeback). So, Westbrook play may not be the most impresive example of sportmanship, but at least is not cheating and is nothing new in the NFL. Is as honorable as letting you oponent score on you, isn't it? As for the play of Payton Manning, you have to be like him to try it, I would love to see Kyle Orton, Tarvaris Jackson or even Kurt Warner call that play, I'm sure that evry given sunday Lovie Smith, Brad Childress or Whisenhunt would scream their sould to them and bench them for weeks or even release them. And like Frank Reich said, thats what separetes men from boys. At last but not least, one question..IF New Orleans, Washington, and NY Giants end with 9 - 7 records, which teams go as wild cards?? and if it is Minnesota, NY Giants and New Orleans? Thanks again and sorry if I extend myself. Mery Chirstmas from Mexico (PS If you wanna know where I'm gonna be, check google earth Puerto Arista Chiapas, Mexico on the south, PARADISE you would love it) 500 fishermen village with 18km of open sea bech and manglares. If you wanna go, let me know and i will be honored to take you there. 726444

2007-12-19T13:02:51-05:00

TiraP

Kingston 217383

Regarding Manning pass, Bill Parcells used to practice situations like that one at the end of practice. http://cowboys.beloblog.com/archives/2006/07/29/ scroll down to... Situationally speaking 3:34 PM Sat, Jul 29, 2006 | Permalink Todd Archer E-mail News tips Sometimes fans don't know what's going on, and this happens every year. As the most ardent followers of the team know , Bill Parcells puts his team through game situations toward the end of practice so when things come up in the regular season they are prepared. Saturday's situation was killing the final few seconds with a long throw out of bounds. They did it in San Francisco last year, if some of you may remember. Well on Saturday, Drew Bledsoe's clock-killing throw landed about 10 rows deep into the crowd, drawing a ton of boos. When Tony Romo, Drew Henson and Jeff Mroz followed with the same play, they continued to boo, apparently not picking up on what was going on. Peter King is an overhyper. 726057

2007-12-19T12:28:04-05:00

Scott in NH

Goffstown 217705

Here's my question on the Manning play. Was the ball catchable? Or, did he heave it along the sideline out of bounds? I didn't see the play so I can't comment. But, if it stayed in the field of play, how is this a smart play? What happens if he gets picked and they run it back for the tying touchdown? Now, if he threw it out of bounds I can see the wisdom in the play. 725810

2007-12-19T12:10:57-05:00

Sox fan

South Dennis 42515

Let's see, the Colts are ahead by a TD, there's five seconds left, take a penalty or take a knee and the game is over> So, Manning goes deep attempting another TD. Why? What for? To humiliate Oakland? To punish them for being lousy and suddenly playing a little bit tough? What's this about? Where is the outcry at the Colts for trying to embarass the professionals on the other side of the ball? Wasn't this an example of trying to unnecessarily running up the score? If the Pats did it there would be public outrage across the land. The Colts try it and nary a word. 725669

2007-12-19T11:24:58-05:00

<Jon>

Galion 217684

Kudos to Westbrook. I've been calling for guys to do this repeatedly. Most recent example: Browns-Jets, Week 14. Jamal Lewis breaks a run and scores with 1:33 left on the clock. The Jets end up getting a field goal with 30+ seconds left to pull within 6 points. Yes, getting the ball on an onside kick and scoring may be a longshot, but if Lewis takes a knee at the one, that game is over. As for the argument that a 2 score lead is somehow better than taking a knee, you're crazy. To the best of my knowledge, there has never been fumble lost on a kneel down play. On the other hand, October 8th, 2007 Dallas vs. Buffalo. Dallas scores with 20 seconds left, recovers an onside kick and the Bills lose. Being able to take a knee and run out the clock is much more desirable than giving the other team a chance. 725261

2007-12-19T10:45:21-05:00

Greg in NH

Portsmouth 217075

Who is Micheal Westbrook? 724840

Today in <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/12/18/mmqbte/index.html">Monday Morning Quarterback Tuesday Edition</a>:* Brian Westbrook's brilliance at the end of the Eagles' win over the Cowboys.* Peyton Manning's ingenuity in the final seconds of the Colts' win over the Raiders.* Peter's thoughts on whether the NFL needs something like the Mitchell Report.* A reader questions the Cowboys' strategy on Sunday.* Who's to blame on the Giants: Eli Manning or Kevin Gilbride?* Snow games may not be fair, but they're fun to watch.This is your chance to share your thoughts on these NFL topics and more. 2647 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/759/78/thumb/king-fn-150.jpg 1 NY

Peter King

New York 76278