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React: Steroids in America
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Petrus357
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Here's a video that sums up the state of steroids and sports - a must-see:
http://www.smackcaster.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=28&func=fileinfo&id=11187
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2008-03-16T23:31:57-04:00
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bill1
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Kudos to Jack McCallum and SI for taking the discussion beyond the relatively small segment of professional athletics to the wider world. Lost in all the negative publicity are the often beneficial results of using many of these drugs in a doctor prescribed program. Prednisone - a steroid - was an integral as part of a treatment program I underwent for leukemia. And my nephew benefited enormously from the use of HGH due to a congential birth syndrome which had stunted his growth. In our rush to purge sports of PEDs, we must insure that those who truly need 'em, get 'em.
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2008-03-14T09:41:16-04:00
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Tomsd
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Great set of articles by SI - and even though I knew from a friend who ran track at Texas in the 60's - that the football coaches there (with Darryl Royal holding court as the AD) - were having problems with sophomore players blowing out their knees - what after gaining 25/30 pounds their frosh year while "strength training" - I had no idea this English Powerlifter was the mail order kind of steroids, or that he personally had skewed the test in the middle 60's, and as late as 2006, the Physician Desk Reference (the Bible for Dr's - and my dad was one) - pooh poohed the effects/benefits of using Anabolic-50 - or whatever the Steroids was.
And now, nitwits like a former Penn State football player and his 112 lb wife are on an HGH prescribed course of "enhancing" their bodies, proudly saying it's worth the rise?
And how about that Belgian Blue? bull - who looks as ripped as The Arnold ever did.
GREAT REPORTING.
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2008-03-14T09:40:28-04:00
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Tomsd
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Great set of articles by SI - and even though I knew from a friend who ran track at Texas in the 60's - that the football coaches there (with Darryl Royal holding court as the AD) - were having problems with sophomore players blowing out their knees - what after gaining 25/30 pounds their frosh year while "strength training" - I had no idea this English Powerlifter was the mail order kind of steroids, or that he personally had skewed the test in the middle 60's, and as late as 2006, the Physician Desk Reference (the Bible for Dr's - and my dad was one) - pooh poohed the effects/benefits of using Anabolic-50 - or whatever the Steroids was.
And now, nitwits like a former Penn State football player and his 112 lb wife are on an HGH prescribed course of "enhancing" their bodies, proudly saying it's worth the rise?
And how about that Belgian Blue? bull - who looks as ripped as The Arnold ever did.
GREAT REPORTING.
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2008-03-13T16:14:47-04:00
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go0n
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What evere happened to playing for the game anyway? I am absolutley disgusted at how the players are using steroids to "perform" better. I was in the Marine Corps and had plenty of friends get busted for using steroids. Sorry the limelight doesnt make it down that far on the food chain. These men and women get paid millions of dollars to play a sport. It is absurd. These people not only get paid millions but have fan bases of kids and adults who look up to them as idols. Now that they are cracking down on the "ILLEGAL" use of steroids its showing great respect for not only the players themselves but their fans and the GAME. I think they should rethink the paychecks given to the players and we will see who the true players are.
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2008-03-13T16:09:35-04:00
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go0n
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Whatever happened to playing for the game anyway? These athletes get paid way too much money, its absolutly rediculous. I was in the Marine Corps and had plenty of freinds get in trouble for steroid use. These same rules should apply especially to those who are playing a sport as a job. I am almost disgusted at how much money goes into fueling these players. Not only that but then the crazy amount of respect they earn with the younger crowds who look up to these men and women as idols. What are they really looking up to? Overpaid people abusing drugs? Man i wish I could admire someone like that. This article is rediculous, sorry that they get paid millions and make the news for breaking laws becaus ethey are FAMOUS. What else does the media focus on? This is o=absurd.
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2008-03-13T13:39:11-04:00
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billy mimnaugh
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The article was great.Finally someone allowed a different view in the media.Ive used PEDs for twenty five years and have NEVER had one problem.Every blood test has come back normal[except elevated levels oftest].Ive known hundreads of users and NOT ONE has had a problem.
The government is the problem.When we see fools like congressman Patrick Kennedy go in and out of rehab[three times]and the congress NEVER calls for his resignation,but is then outraged at steroid use among athletes,its enough to make you puke.Wait untill you see how foolish Henry Waxman comesacross in BIGGER STRONGER FASTER.This isthe guy heading the steroid hearings.Its a joke!!!!
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2008-03-12T20:52:07-04:00
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pwings
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"1969 Sports Illustrated produces a three-part investigation about performance-enhancing drugs in sports. Sources predict that the use of such drugs will eventually explode into an epidemic. (Says former Los Angeles Dodgers team doctor Robert Kerlan, "The excessive and secretive use of drugs is likely to become a major athletic scandal, one that will shake public confidence in many sports just as the gambling scandal tarnished the reputation of basketball.")"
Excerpt from: "How we got here: A timeline of performance-enhancing drugs in sports" Compiled by Rebecca Shore, SI.com (linked article to this one)
Sports Illustrated could do the public and the legislators a great service by re-publishing this article to reflect what the owners, management and the union should have, could have (DID??) know about the steroid problem nearly 40 YEARS AGO. Was the information in this article confirned by the Mitchell Report? Was any of it refuted? Did they even read it???
The Commissioner at the time was Bowie Kuhn, recently inducted in the MLB Hall of Fame. Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia's entry about Bowie Kuhn":
"Also in 1970, Kuhn described Jim Bouton's Ball Four as "detrimental to baseball" and demanded that Bouton retract it. The book has been republished several times and is now considered a classic."
So the one who told the truth was vilified and the one who covered up is in the Hall of Fame? Oh. Take heart, Barry and Roger. You too, Pete.
And Bud, care to reconsider your "we didn't know" ???
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2008-03-12T19:00:06-04:00
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pwings
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Our congress is a puppet of drug companies. Kind of ironic they go after the user instead of the supplier.
Rudedog | 03/12/08, 06:40 PM
Rudedog,
We even have a law enforcement agency to deal with the user while ignoring the supplier:
ATF - Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms
And two of these are heavily taxed, but uncontrolled, substances. Hmmm.
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2008-03-12T18:53:40-04:00
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pwings
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A companion article to this "The ABC's of HGH" by David Epstein contained the following quote:
"Human growth hormone: The primary purpose of growth hormone, secreted by the pituitary gland at the base of the brain, is the maintenance of normal bone development from birth to adulthood. Synthetic human growth hormone, or somatropin, is typically used to treat growth disorders and the wasting effects of HIV/AIDS....."
Granted, Epstein's article was a very basic primer of steroids and HGH. However, it did make it clear that there were legitimate, therapeutic uses for HGH as part of a prescribed medical treatment.
To me, one of the ironies of this whole problem is that everyone (public and legislators) has jumped to the following conclusions about steroids and HGH BEFORE the scientific evidence is in:
1) Steroids and HGH are literally PED's: PERFORMANCE ENHANCING drugs.
Reading and listening to the scientists weigh in on this, you see a vigorous debate about whether performance is truly enhanced or whether someone is simply being sold "snake oil".
2) Whether steroids and HGH damage the body long-term is also under vigorous debate.
Sounds a lot like the marijuana debate. Battle lines between advocates and opponents were drawn before anyone really knew what the hell they were talking about. And most people STILL don't know what they're talking about because the research isn't being done, or if it is, it's not made public.
Imagine that. In America!
P.S. Before anyone starts hatin' on me here as a "druggie", I'm not a user nor am I an advocate. I just find it ironic that a nation that believes itself to be so "rational" and "scientific" jumps to self-serving conclusions so easily.
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<font face="verdana,geneva"><font size="2">SI senior writer Jack McCallum says athletes who take performance-improving drugs make all the headlines. But the culture of personal physical enhancement has pushed the use <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/magazine/03/11/steroids1/index.html?eref=T1">of </a></font><font size="2"><a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/magazine/03/11/steroids1/index.html?eref=T1">steroids and HGH everywhere</a></font><font size="2"> -- from Hollywood to the music industry to your next-door neighbor who doesn't want to grow old. Don't blame only the jocks.</font></font>
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