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Are you kidding me? With the exception of Marve, not one of those 7 kids had even been mentioned as having done something wrong prior to the suspensions and the Marve incident happened 10 MONTHS AGO! No running stairs at Miami. Compare that to FSU who rearranged their schedule after having to suspend almost half their team for academic fraud for the bowl game and the first couple games this year or UF who decided a player that had been suspended 'indefinitely' for shooting an AK-47 as intimidation after a fight could be reinstated after a player at the same position got injured.

How about PSU with their 22 arrests over the last 7 years or God knows how many Tennessee has had over that same time. How many has Miami had over that time? 2 incidents and one of them the charges were dropped but Shannon still decided to suspend Marve even though that happened 10 MONTHS AGO!

Just to add to the reasons for the 6 suspensions besides Marve, Shannon wouldnt say why they were suspended, but he did say this: " Like I said before when I took the job at the University of Miami, we hold everybody to higher standards than most teams in the country. We have our rules and regulations, as far as curfew, study hall, and doing the right things in the classroom. We won't be having a few guys attending the game for those reasons and we'll move forward."

Considering nothing was in the media or message boards about those 6 players suspended (other than Marve); it is pretty safe to assume the infractions were minor, but Shannon still suspended them. Most schools would not suspend them regardless of who they were playing.

"It is what it is"

I don't knkow why Coach Saban's name get brought up everytime there's an article about the negative sides of college football. Oh...yeah...He is the negative side of college football.

To throw a little fuel on the fire. As bad as it is in CFB, it's a hundred times worse in High School. My son's team had a guy spray another guy with mace AT SCHOOL and he played that night.

One reason why Miles will prove to be a better coach than Saban. Nick Satan suspends his premier wideout against a "cupcake" team, then pulls him back in when he starts to lose.

Miles suspends, then kicks Perrilloux off the team for good, with only Hatch and Lee to fall back on. RJ Francois was suspended - and served - a regular season suspension.

Nick may be a good coach, but his "do whatever it takes" approach is only good for having more "W's than "L"s on your scorecard. It's not good for the team, the players, or the fans. Les, OTOH, isn't afraid to actually DO what Saban only mouths off about - doing the "right thing".

Perriloux may have lost his chance at LSU, but both academically and in personal growth he may look back and see that getting booted from LSU was the best thing Les Miles ever did for him.

Go Les! Fear the Hat! Roll Tide Roll, around the bowl and down the hole....

I love how you selectively pull a story about Saban from last year, but fail to point out he has suspended his starting inside linebacker (Prince Hall) for the first 3 games INCLUDING CLEMSON, when the team is disparately short at linebacker.

Nicely put, Peter. The suspension of Prince Hall, at a desperately short linebacker position, for a major game against Clemson would never receive mention by a member of the media. Saban despises the media and treats them like the children they are, so they in turn blame him for all the ills of college football.

As for Miles and Perrilloux...it only took 3 or 4 violations for Miles to finally kick the guy off the team. Usually the suspicion of counterfeiting would be enough to do it, but the holy moron Miles was more than happy to keep the loser around. Yeah, Miles is a great exmaple of what a coach should be. The dude can't even pronounce Arkansas!

Yeah, Jay, suspending Marve for one game but then basically saying to Charleston Southern that they are so utterly meaningless that the suspension will be served on another week is surely the "right" thing to do. What a ridiculous argument. The fact is that Marve losing a chance to get his FIRST gametime snaps before the big trip up to the Swamp IS a big deal, to him, and to the team's chances of pulling off a win there. He'll now take his first ever snap in a raging Swamp against UF's defense.... and yet you call this nothing? You and I couldn't see things more differently.

Dotarian, that was a pretty ridiculous use of the Perrilloux example there. Miles let that kid get away with one violation after another (including serious criminal offenses) before he dismissed him, moreso than many other coaches likely would have... and then only did so when he simply had no choice. You should teach a course on sugarcoating, bud.

the teams that goergia are playing are not total cupcakes! The coach at Georgia Southern won a national championship and does well in 1-aa. central michigan won the mac last year and have a top ten qb and won their bowl game. those teams will compete and the games will be closer than everybody expects, but they wont win

You have GOT to be kidding me, ugadawg! Are you really arguing that a game against a 1-aa school and a game against CENTRAL Michigan are not cupcakes for Georgia????? LOL! What exactly then is your defintion of a cupcake? I always thought it meant a much weaker team that is completely outmatched and has slim-to-no chance of winning or even competing but rather is just a tune-up for the big dog. Are you really arguing that either of those teams are serious competition for UGA? Cmon now, man, that's just plain ridiculous.

Waterboy/U: Miles was constrained on his actions with Perriloux at first because there was a criminal investigation underway. We still live in a country where you are presumed innocent, right? He had to wait for the outcome of the police investigations before taking action. And, if I remember rightly, he did suspend him from practicing and working out with the team while several of the investigations were underway.

Also, let's not forget that he left Ryan at home for the 'Bama game, which was one of the most important games of the year for the SEC West. Les wasn't afraid to pull Ryan out and make him stay home for a critical game, which is more than Nick Satan did against the "cupcake" Louisiana-Monroe team.

Suspensions are handed out for three reasons: violating team rules, violating school rules, and violating the law. In each case, the coach has to review the "offense", and then work with the powers-that-be on an appropriate punishment.

- In RJ Francois' case, the school made him academically ineligible, so there was little he could directly do (even if he wanted to).

- Perriloux had several infractions. The ones that were team violations wer dealt with directly and severely by Coach Miles. The infractions involving the local police and sheriff's office were different, and he needed to wait for more "official" information before taking action. Ever been around Louisiana PD's of any kind? If so, you'd understand why it's prudent to wait and see if a person of color is actually guilty of the charges before passing judgement. But, even then, Coach Miles imposed sanctions on Ryan while waiting for the police to post an official report on the incidents.

So, in the immortal words of T-Pain, you're just "running your YabYab". You know very little of which you speak. Please take some time and do a little research before you mouth off again about things you don't fully understand.

Go Les!

Investigated by the Feds as a freshman (retaining counsel as a result), busted using a fake-ID to get onto a gambling boat in May of 2007 and 'suspended indefinitely' only to be brought back in time to get ready for the season, in a fight at a nightclub in October with two other players - both less important players dismissed from team but not Perrilloux, accused of getting hostile and belligerent with a restaurant staff in 08 and using racial slurs, a history of skipping classes, missing team meetings, late for workouts, and failed a drug test for marijuana. Is these are just the publically known things.

Look, I'm not comparing this to what Saban did, but you're trying to use THIS GUY as an example of what it is to "do the right thing???? Why, because they FINALLY kicked him off the team after literally YEARS of issues including federal investigations, crimes, violence, drugs, insubordination, and on and on? And you don't think the fact that he was super talented had a hand in why he stayed on the team even after all of that?

If you want to live in some alter-reality where Les Miles is the only coach in the world who doesn't put winning first then fine. But I say once again: cmon, man, that's just plain ridiculous.