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We also learned that Chase Daniel is officially out of the Heisman race. That $50k campaign they started cannot replace the fact that he threw 3 interceptions.

Five things we learned
1. As I have maintained for over a year now Texas, and not Mizzou is #2 in the Big 12. Texas may be #1, but will need more than the win yesterday to show it.
2. Florida's win scrambled the SEC and suggests to me that no SEC team will finish with one or no losses.
3. BYU's less than thrilling home victory over New Mexico gives us a fair picture of why BYU does not belong in the Top Ten.
4. Texas and OKLA have the only defenses in the Big 12 with the potential to slow a top offense.
5. Vandy was another feel good story built upon a weak schedule. Those who voted that Vandy was better than Florida or who thought Vandy could compete for the SEC East should seriously consider some serious, self-imposed internal sanctions against future voting and commentary.
(6). Those who have repeatedly called me an idiot for saying Texas was #2 over Mizzou should also consider some serious self-imposed sanctions.

I'm trying to figure out how Florida and USC both can lose to 3-loss teams and still be in front of undefeated teams (like OK State) and other 1-loss teams that lost to better teams? I still think Mizzou has a great team and hope they come out and play their game... Not taking anything from OK State - but Mizzou is a better team than what their offense showed against OK State... hopefully they will come out and show it against Texas and all the doubters..

That, for the first time in a while, LSU is looking to lose to the likes of Tulane.

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Originally posted 03:50 PM ET  10.12 by KingFootball

We also learned that Chase Daniel is officially out of the Heisman race. That $50k campaign they started cannot replace the fact that he threw 3 interceptions.

Really, so If Chase Daniel throws it all over the yard and leads the Tigers to victory in Austin next week, he's still out of the Heisman running?? ...idiot!

High scoring games are more entertaining, but they say a lot about the defenses invovled as well as the offenses. Let's not forget that in analyzing the Big 12, as Stew seems to.

charmit, your #4 is rediculous why give love to defenses that each allowed more than 30 points instead of praising OK State for slowing down Mizzou

for the Duke - This year's Heisman, unlike last year, seems to leave little room for error. In that sense, throwing three ints against the likes of OK St would seem to be a kiss of death. Keep in mind that you have people like Tebow and others who may not have distinguished themselves so far, but in leading their team to the NC could garner much respect. Add to that the increasing evidence that Mizzou has been lucky that it has played no solid defensive units yet. Even what OK St had to offer unraveled Daniel. It doesn't look promising.

We learned that there is just no love for Georgia no matter if they win or lose, unless they win it all then maybe these guys will get some respect.

I'm so with you, Servant. USC in the top five?

And I'd like to point out that I went on record with Stew's #1 weeks ago. Thank you, thank you very much. And I figured that OU's inept special teams would cost us the texas game. Anybody know where we can find a new special teams squad? Heya, coach, call me. I'll walk on. I certainly can't do any worse.

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Originally posted 04:31 PM ET  10.12 by CharMit

for the Duke - This year's Heisman, unlike last year, seems to leave little room for error. In that sense, throwing three ints against the likes of OK St would seem to be a kiss of death. Keep in mind that you have people like Tebow and others who may not have distinguished themselves so far, but in leading their team to the NC could garner much respect. Add to that the increasing evidence that Mizzou has been lucky that it has played no solid defensive units yet. Even what OK St had to offer unraveled Daniel. It doesn't look promising.

If we lose ugly in Austin, your argument carries more weight. Keep in mind, its not as if we pulled a Georgia and got blown out of our own stadium? Or a UF who lost to Ole Miss at home. Or a USC who lost to an unranked opponent. We played poor last night and STILL almost won that game. I think its a bit of an overreaction to suggest we were overrated and Chase for the Heisman is done. They very much have a shot at winning next Sat. Will it be easy, of course not. But we have every bit a chance Texas had against OU.

It is time that someone stepped in and provided structure for the voters of the Top 25. At this point in the season there should be some quality wins or at least victories over highly talented teams like FSU, Clemson and others to point to in order to earn a Top 25 ranking. In the case of Texas Tech we not only have no quality wins, but the combined efforts of their six victims produces only a victory over Texas A&M for boasting purposes. Tech struggled to beat Nebr and that should have been an easy victory for a Top Five team.
I have heard in the past that Tech scheduled East Wash, Mass, Nev and SMU eight years ago and how could anyone know that there wouldn't be at least two or three challenging games in that group. I have heard that Tech places an emphasis on scheduling winnable games in which they can run up the score to impress recruits. My guess is that the Utah victory over a misbegotten Mich team did more for recruiting than Utah running up the score on Montana St. We hear fans of the SEC and the Big 12 claiming that their own confs are so difficult that scheduling anyone but powderpuffs for ooc is unnecessary. How can any fan of LSU can look at their ooc and feel any excitement is beyond me and these practices must cease. So TexTech is not the only school that lacks integrity in scheduling but they have such a bad history that ESPN ranked them in the top ten for scheduling weaklings. I could almost understand how historic weaklings like Minnesota and Kansas (numbers one and two, according to ESPN) could do this, but I think it is time that true fans of the game spoke out.

tbearup3 - Your comment isn't really all that enlightening. If you're trying to say that Texas' or Oklahoma's defenses are suspect, I'm sure you would be among a select few who saw it that way, as opposed to a brilliant display by two incredibly dynamic offenses. It says a lot about OK State's defense that they were able to hold a team who scored 52 against an Illinois team (that, somehow, Stew had at around 16 last week even with two losses) to 23 points. Even those who love the Big 12 know that the "bottom 6" teams in the conference are a little suspect on D, so considering that this was the first week in which the "top 6" played anyone else in that group, this is the first week you could say much about the top defenses in the Big 12. Sure, TTech's is pretty bad, but it always has been and they've always been forced to win with their offensive firepower. As stated before, OU and TU should get a little break because they've shown defensive dominance until dealing with each other's offense, and OK State's D earned a lot of respect against MU. MU's defense even held OK State's offense well below their season average in points. And finally, Kansas' D looks much improved with the return to 100% of CB Kendrick Harper. By the way, along with Kendall Hunter, Todd Reesing belongs on peoples' lists for the Heisman again. He's quietly performed better than last season against tougher competition, and though his team lost once, he hasn't had a single bad game. The same can't be said for a certain player in black and gold yesterday, but I'm sure he'll stay on the lists...

As has been mentioned sparingly, and is sorely lacking in the analysis of the Big 12 is that they all lack a high quality defense. It is no surprise when Missouri, both Oklahoma and Texas teams hold significantly lesser teams to low scores (as was the case for the majority of their first four games), but when they play good teams, as Oklahoma played Texas, Mizzou played Oklahoma State look what happened. Texas Tech, phttt, went into overtime against Nebraska (I like NU, but Pelini has a lot of work to do), they should not even be in the top 20. Yes the statistics right now say how great their offenses are, but statistics don't tell who they played, they only tell the numbers. These numbers lie in the big picture, because of who the Big 12 teams play during their non conference games (Chatanooga, for example, now that was sooooome competition!).

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Originally posted 04:34 PM ET  10.12 by SoonerGirl

I'm so with you, Servant. USC in the top five?And I'd like to point out that I went on record with Stew's #1 weeks ago. Thank you, thank you very much. And I figured that OU's inept special teams would cost us the texas game. Anybody know where we can find a new special teams squad? Heya, coach, call me. I'll walk on. I certainly can't do any worse.

I so hope that OU rises up to the top once again and USC or anyone plays you for the National Title. It will be a repeat of 2003, 2004

Well I agree that we (Mizzou) should have passed on adding Buffalo to the schedule. 3 cupcakes was one too many. SEMO because you give in state programs some visibility and a good paycheck. Nevada was acceptable too. We start the year on a neutral field against the Illini and the last two years, played a home and home with Ole Miss. It would have been nice to have picked up another SEC school, but its not always easy getting those teams to commit. I don't think Arkansas wanted anything to do with us and not sure of the relationships with Kentucky or Tenn. Georgraphically those would make most sense. And with one Big Ten team already on the schedule, your not adding another.

I would love it, but it takes two AD's to work it out and that ain't always easy.

Congrads to Minnesota -- no longer a doormat. But a team that averages less yards on Offense than it gives up on Defense (-20 yds/game) is an average team that will have problems down the road. Fortunately for UM, they have a fairly weak schedule in front of them and they might make a good bowl. lol.

ThewsDAWGS:
are you serious?? Georgia got CRUSHED AT HOME by alabama. DESTROYED. respect??? that's hilarious. i don't care who you play...your down by 30 at the half to anyone you don't belong in the discussion of the nation's elite.

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Originally posted 04:23 PM ET  10.12 by The Duke of Soulard

Really, so If Chase Daniel throws it all over the yard and leads the Tigers to victory in Austin next week, he's still out of the Heisman running?? ...idiot!

Nice to see the lovely Missouri fans aren't bitter. Your 2 year run is over. You now have 50 years of mediocrity again. Sorry but those are the facts.

for Nittany#1 - A less than famous SI basketball reporter three years ago stated that no team swept by South Carolina was final four material. He was speaking of Florida which a few weeks later won its first championship. So statements like yours often come back to bite you. If you are saying that Georgia is not an elite team I won't argue. But if you are saying that Georgia does not belong in the same discussion as other teams that could win the NC that doesn't seem like a solid statement. If GA finishes with one loss and there are no undefeated BCS teams I would bet GA is #1 or #2.