Texas still gets my No. 2 vote over Oklahoma

2009-09-08T11:21:10-04:00

2008-11-30T01:38:25-05:00

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2008-12-02T03:49:10-05:00

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Tbrent

Austin 619397

1355 If soehow OU loses yo Mizzout TTech should go to the BCS before UT for all reasons. 3505129

2008-12-02T00:14:36-05:00

SoonrBred

Rockville 622770

1354 For those who wish to rank Texas ahead of OU, I have only one question for you: how do you objectively rank the other teams in the conference after you have decided to give Texas the big break? To be clear, there are many more questions to answer than simply who is the best team. In this conference, those in 2nd and 3rd find themselves in very important bowl games as well. If you insist on using the "head to head" argument, it's impossible to use any rationale to determine who is in the Fiesta, the Cotton, etc. 3504564

2008-12-01T22:12:07-05:00

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megametfan13

Oxford 622700

1353 is it not obvious that texas better than oklahoma. TEXAS BEAT OKLAHOMA ON A NEUTRAL FIELD!!!! it doesnt make any sense how anybody could say oklahoma is better. and who cares who led most of the game. the fact is that the game was pretty close throughout and they play the whole game for a reason. and to those people who bring up common opponents, ecspecially OSU, some teams match up better against certain teams. oklahoma obviously matches up better with OSU than texas does. but we arent talkin about OSU. the debate is over texas and oklahoma. so this arguement doesnt pertain to anything. oklahoma got to go to the big 12 championship simply because they played their toughest games toward the end of the season whereas texas had them earlier which have been somehow forgotten. 3503540

2008-12-01T21:59:34-05:00

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megametfan13

Oxford 622700

1352 45-35 enough said 3503456

2008-12-01T20:57:25-05:00

lonesomepolecat

Troy 605259

1351 Let's forget about the BCS for a moment, and decide who would be playing in the Big 12 title game if it weren't for the BCS. I believe both the SWC and the Big 8 would send the team who had had the longest absence from the game. This is assuming that they would use their bowl game rule. Why should Oklahoma's games out of conference basically count as in conference games? Why does there HAVE to be a national champion? For years you vied to win your conference title, got invited to a bowl game, and had 2 polls to be considered for a national champion. 11 times they were different. What's wrong with 2 schools chanting we're number 1? Just because they have a playoff in the lower levels of college football, doesn't mean it's practical for the DI teams to do. Lest we forget, the NCAA runs the lower playoffs, the "big boys" left the NCAA in the dust back in the 80's to run the CFA to make more $$$ for themselves. Do the BSC teams want to play an 11 game schedule, not have as many bye weeks, and start the playoffs at the end of November? It would work if they choose to go that route. Division III already has 2 rounds in. We also can't forget the bowl games that are very lucrative financially for the schools and conferences. 3502908

2008-12-01T19:48:01-05:00

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Texas92alltheway

No City 622500

1350 William Barber from arkansas. Oklahoma doesn't deserve to play in it. Texas beat them in a neutral site fair and square. Texas only lost to Tech because they were on the last game of a brutal schedule. ( 4 top ranked teams in a row) Oklahomas big wins over top ten teams have been spread out and at home! when they played texas in a neutral zone they were taken down. Who is Missouri? they dont deserve to play for the Big 12 title. they are on the weak side of the division. it should be Oklahoma and Texas then we would have nothing to argue about. all in all oklahoma pretty much has a straight shot to the BCS championship game. missouri cant touch them. but texas can and they have proved it. we will see, oklahoma cant hang with florida nor alabama. but when they get spanked by whichever S.E.C team they play and Texas walks over what team they play in a bowl game oklahoma fans will know they didnt deserve it. ( if they dont already ) 3502189

2008-12-01T17:35:13-05:00

K.T. RAIDA

No City 622300

1349 OU beating Tech has some how suppose to count for a win to Texas also???? "since OU destroyed tech you have to take them out the picture and go head to head ou vs. texas"are U SERIOUS???? 3500374

2008-12-01T17:35:12-05:00

K.T. RAIDA

No City 622300

1348 OU beating Tech has some how suppose to count for a win to Texas also???? "since OU destroyed tech you have to take them out the picture and go head to head ou vs. texas"are U SERIOUS???? 3500373

2008-12-01T15:41:16-05:00

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Texas28

Aurora 166719

1347 4 wheels three things are for sure; 1) You don't know a damn thing about football. 2) You sure as hell don't know what class is and 3) You need to get your head out of Stoop's as- and breath. 3498010

2008-12-01T15:23:06-05:00

longhornjerry

Scotch Plains 622282

1346 All you lawyer-advocate wannabes out there are hilarious. Saying that the right decision is clear either for UT or for OU is crazy. The right decision is a hard one. Both teams have strong arguments. Now I'm all for UT, but can see that OU had an outstanding year, and deserve what they've earned. I'm crushed that UT isn't playing for the Big 12 title, but nobody in their right mind can say that OU didn't earn a shot. 3497662

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<div class="photo_container image_right"> <div class="photo"><img src="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/andy_staples/11/29/florida.fsu/T1_1029_chrisbrownap.jpg" alt="Double Click to select a Photo" width="298" height="418" /></div> <div class="photo_attributes" style="text-align:right;">RB Chris Brown clinched OU's fourth straight 60-point game. AP</div> </div> It's only fitting the Big 12 -- this season's most entertaining conference -- would allow its championship race to culminate in yet another, enthralling primetime shootout. Two great quarterbacks and two great offenses traded punches well into the fourth quarter Saturday night in Stillwater, with 10-1 Oklahoma ultimately prevailing 61-41 over 9-2 Oklahoma State. Now, the conference that's provided the nation with so many thrillers this season -- including Friday's Nebraska-Colorado nail-biter and Saturday's last-second Kansas-Missouri finish -- will sit back and let voters from around the country decide one of its championship-game participants. In a sport built on often-strange traditions, this may well be one of its most bizarre moments yet. If you tuned in Saturday night, you saw yet another virtuoso performance from Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford. He completed 30-of-44 passes for 371 yards and four touchdowns and added a "signature" moment to his Heisman campaign when he went airborne in an attempt to somersault into the end zone. (He scored on the next play.) You also saw an Oklahoma State team that simply would not go away, with dual-threat QB Zac Robinson accounting for 358 total yards and four TDs. Three times in the second half, Oklahoma went up by double-digits, only to have the Cowboys respond with a touchdown, including Perrish Cox's 90-yard kick return that made it 44-41 with just over 10 minutes remaining. But Bradford marched right back down the field to throw yet another touchdown (the Sooners produced six straight at one point), OU finally got a couple of stops and ultimately managed to break the 60-point mark for a fourth straight week. (Almost by accident, Chris Brown broke a 28-yard touchdown run with 25 seconds left.) Personally, I want nothing to do with deciding which 11-1 team -- Texas, Texas Tech or Oklahoma -- should be crowned Big 12 South champion, and fortunately I don't. That's up to the coaches poll, the Harris poll and BCS computers. I do, however, have an AP ballot to submit by Sunday morning and must decide which order to rank them. First of all, to no one's surprise, Texas Tech is not in my equation. The Red Raiders ended their season losing 65-21 to Oklahoma and barely surviving 4-8 Baylor. (They also lost star WR Michael Crabtree on Saturday, but that's another story.) They will remain right where I had them last week -- lowest of the one-loss teams (seventh). Before Saturday night's game started, here's how I decided to approach the Texas-Oklahoma paradigm: The Longhorns were the incumbents and the Sooners were the challengers. In other words, the onus was on No. 4 (as of last week) Oklahoma to do something Saturday night to prove why it should unseat No. 3 Texas. As hard as it is to take issue with a road win over a top-15 foe -- I do not think that "something" took place. Whereas Texas has hard evidence on its behalf in the form of its 45-35 victory over OU on Oct. 11, any argument in favor of Oklahoma is essentially subjective. It comes down to arbitrarily determining the Sooners are playing better right now than are the Longhorns. That would be a lot easier argument to make if Texas, like Texas Tech, had limped its way to the finish. However, all the 'Horns have done since their last-second loss in Lubbock is drill Baylor, 45-21; win at Kansas (the same team that toppled No. 12 Missouri 40-37 on Saturday), 35-7; and hammer Texas A&M, 49-9. There's no evidence that the 'Horns are playing any worse than they were on Oct. 11. As for Oklahoma, there's little question the Sooners have the most dangerous offense in the country right now. They've put up no less than 58 points their past five games, and Bradford looks unstoppable every time he takes the field. Oklahoma's defense, however, has hardly looked immortal this season, and Saturday night was no exception. The Sooners' defense played the game of their lives in shutting down Texas Tech's Graham Harrell last week, but they had a much harder time handling Oklahoma State's Robinson. And, for the fourth time this season, OU's special teams allowed a kick return for a touchdown. Much like an instant replay review, I need "insurmountable evidence" to convince me to move one team (Oklahoma) above another (Texas). All I see are two extremely deserving teams with no discernible separation between them -- except, of course, for that 10-point margin on the day they played each other. 27662 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/940/61/thumb/mandel_stewart.jpg 2 NY

Stewart Mandel

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