Sooners get another round with Pac-10 refs

2008-09-14T00:16:20-04:00

2008-09-10T21:18:50-04:00

2008-09-12T11:58:35-04:00

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HawaiianDuck

Eugene 165014

Them pac 10 ref's, call games in favor of whom they themselves hope to win the game, we all seen the pac 10 ref's call games. it's bad they cheated OUTRIGHT for oregon u, then the oregon fans cheered when they won, now that shows you how crazy they are to be happy and cheer knowing their ref's cheated for them to win, thats the only way oregon could beat OU, is by cheating, if that was me I would hang my head knowing we had to cheat on national tv. and OU and Washington are not the only teams to be dinged by the pac 10 ref's in favor of their favorite team.

26 Ok, Dimrod, I was at that game, and I cheered. I still consider it the best game I ever saw, and I still feel the better team won. There were bad calls both ways in that game, and yes, that includes the onside kick. I cheered, like everyone else did in that stadium, because it was not apparent to us that the call was bad. I felt we were lucky. Now I cheer because the whining of OU fans, which has lasted for years now, is annoying at best, and I feel like those fans who are still whining are babies. Give it up and move on, people! 2726577

2008-09-14T00:16:20-04:00

Gilby

Norman 489754

Ok, Dimrod, I was at that game, and I cheered. I still consider it the best game I ever saw, and I still feel the better team won. There were bad calls both ways in that game, and yes, that includes the onside kick. I cheered, like everyone else did in that stadium, because it was not apparent to us that the call was bad. I felt we were lucky. Now I cheer because the whining of OU fans, which has lasted for years now, is annoying at best, and I feel like those fans who are still whining are babies. Give it up and move on, people!

32 No, ****. We're not whining. You're just a **** moron. 2736908

2008-09-11T14:32:23-04:00

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Duck in Utah

ogden 489097

14 Now that I think about it though, I would love to see the Sooners get hosed in Seattle. After watching Oklahoma fans whine for years about a poorly officiated game and then watching a couple of OK city dirtbags steal the Sonics from Seattle I'm hoping flags are flying on every play of the game. 2717948

2008-09-14T00:13:27-04:00

Gilby

Norman 489754

Now that I think about it though, I would love to see the Sooners get hosed in Seattle. After watching Oklahoma fans whine for years about a poorly officiated game and then watching a couple of OK city dirtbags steal the Sonics from Seattle I'm hoping flags are flying on every play of the game.

31 Wow, Duck. You're a worthless sack of ****. No question. 2736907

2008-09-13T08:57:29-04:00

kvntvle

Mcalester 531075

30 The bad officiating calls in 2006 and the Oregon Duck football team are both irrelevant to the 2008 season. 2733895

2008-09-12T13:17:04-04:00

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DoIt4Johnny

SFO 517218

29 I wonder how many times the Oregon call is going to come up during the game (by the commentators). 2728652

2008-09-10T21:39:25-04:00

FrenchSpiceDoc

No City 475144

1 it is fortunate that journalist folk do not have a team of supervisors following every mouse and key click, pointing out the errors, and then mis-correcting the grammar. the real question is why do coaches get so publicy crucified while the officiating teams get almost hidden bylines when errors occur and are discussed? 2711848

2008-09-12T12:57:28-04:00

Luke Fleeman

Visalia 482215

it is fortunate that journalist folk do not have a team of supervisors following every mouse and key click, pointing out the errors, and then mis-correcting the grammar. the real question is why do coaches get so publicy crucified while the officiating teams get almost hidden bylines when errors occur and are discussed?

28 Yeah, but if Mandel makes a typo, no one misses the BCS championship or a bowl bid worth thousands of dollars, or loses recruits, or drops in the rankings, or gets its coaches fired... 2728287

2008-09-12T12:42:47-04:00

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Chicago Sooner

Palatine 517353

27 Everyone's point is an opinion. There are questionsable calls all the time in a game. They generally are forgotten, unless the call determine's the outcome. The Wash/BYU call had an impact on the outcome. The Okla, Orgeon had an impact on the outcome. The media asked the question of Stoops about the Pac 10 officiating. The media likes to stir the pot. It sells. Stoops would not have discussed it, and he didn't really discuss it, if the question wasn't asked. Here is the point, all calls are judgement call. If the call is going to impact the end of the game, then the ref better make sure he is right. Isn't interesting that all the discussion is about Pac 10 officials and Pac 10 games, only one of which involved Oklahoma. And you will never see Stoops kicking a field goal with seconds on the clock leading 23-3. 2727888

2008-09-11T10:12:43-04:00

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Oklahoma Nimrod

Atoka 191553

10 Them pac 10 ref's, call games in favor of whom they themselves hope to win the game, we all seen the pac 10 ref's call games. it's bad they cheated OUTRIGHT for oregon u, then the oregon fans cheered when they won, now that shows you how crazy they are to be happy and cheer knowing their ref's cheated for them to win, thats the only way oregon could beat OU, is by cheating, if that was me I would hang my head knowing we had to cheat on national tv. and OU and Washington are not the only teams to be dinged by the pac 10 ref's in favor of their favorite team. 2714411

2008-09-12T11:58:35-04:00

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HawaiianDuck

Eugene 165014

2008-09-10T23:24:46-04:00

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Richduck69

Charleston AFB 146851

2 Mandel, there where many officiating errors during that OU and UO game. No one remembers the replay of Jonathon Stewart's apparent fumble in the 3rd quarter where Oklahoma went on to score. The replay showed that Stewart's knee was clearly down, but because it wasn't considered game changing it's non evident. It was certainly a game changing moment in the essence of momentum, but that doesn't count I guess. 2712459

2008-09-12T11:15:07-04:00

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jreel

Tulsa 490323

Mandel, there where many officiating errors during that OU and UO game. No one remembers the replay of Jonathon Stewart's apparent fumble in the 3rd quarter where Oklahoma went on to score. The replay showed that Stewart's knee was clearly down, but because it wasn't considered game changing it's non evident. It was certainly a game changing moment in the essence of momentum, but that doesn't count I guess.

25 This is what kills me. Oregon fans who claim that it wasnt that big of a deal. Hey Duck, plays get missed all the time. But only a handful are so blatant that people still talk about them. ala Vinny Testaverde's Jets TD, the Colorado/Missouri 5th down. I've moved on. Most Sooner fans moved on. Hell, the only thing that pissed me off worse than the call were all the Duck fans that were making excuses. I just want to hear ONE Duck fan admit that the Sooners got hosed WITHOUT adding a a justifying statement after it. Cmon, there has to be at least ONE honest Duck fan out there that can admit that they stole one. Cmon Duck fan, where are you? 2725853

2008-09-11T14:21:40-04:00

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Duck in Utah

ogden 489097

13 I'm one Duck fan that would be the first to admit that Pac-10 refs are generally terrible and that the Oklahoma game was absolutely embarrassing, but are Oklahoma fans seriously STILL moaning about it? Honestly people, that game was two years ago... 2717783

2008-09-12T09:35:38-04:00

Boomer11

Elk City 523485

I'm one Duck fan that would be the first to admit that Pac-10 refs are generally terrible and that the Oklahoma game was absolutely embarrassing, but are Oklahoma fans seriously STILL moaning about it? Honestly people, that game was two years ago...

24 I don't believe that an Oklahoma fan started this conversation, so I don't know how that would be whining on our part, and I also believe that no one around gives a sh** anymore, good try though, remember that was 2 years ago, Honestly..... 2724310

2008-09-11T14:21:40-04:00

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Duck in Utah

ogden 489097

2008-09-12T09:32:28-04:00

Boomer11

Elk City 523485

23 I don't believe an Oklahoma fan started this conversation, so how would that be whining on our part, good try...... 2724281

<div class="photo_container image_right"> <div class="photo"><img title="Jake Locker" src="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008_images/jake.locker.icon.jpg" alt="Jake Locker" width="298" height="400" /></div> <div class="photo_attributes">Jake Locker is no fan of Pac-10 officials this week.</div> <div class="photo_attributes">(John Froschauer/Icon)</div> </div> <p>I watched Oklahoma coach <strong>Bob Stoops</strong>’ weekly press conference Tuesday, where he was asked about an inevitable subject: His team’s return to a Pac-10 stadium (Saturday at Washington) for the first time since the Sooners’ irreversibly tainted game at Oregon two years ago.<br /><br />A reporter asked if a Pac-10 officiating crew would be working the game. “Yes,” Stoops replied as brusquely as possible. When somebody followed up about whether the Oregon game “still sticks in his craw,” Stoops fidgeted a little and put on a non-convincing smile while responding: “If it does or not, I’m not going to talk about it. … [It was] too long ago.”<br /><br />You can’t blame Stoops for being a little edgy about the subject. Two years ago, his team was the victim of the most egregious officiating error in recent history -- the infamous “replay review” that somehow concluded Oregon had recovered an onside kick it quite clearly did not.<br /><br />In the furor over the incident, it was revealed that the Pac-10 has an official policy requiring its schools to utilize a conference officiating crew for all home games. At the time, Stoops threatened to pull out of Saturday’s Washington trip if the policy was not changed.<br /><br />It wasn’t, but OU is still honoring its contract. And now it’s walking into the same stadium where, just last week, another Pac-10 officiating crew created a national uproar, albeit at the home team’s expense.<br /><br />As I <a href="/si_blogs/the_sweep/posts/1224" target="_blank">wrote last weekend</a>, I’m among the minority who feel the rule, not the ref, was the true source of injustice in the <strong>Jake Locker</strong> ball toss. While many (including <strong>Tyrone Willingam</strong>) have argued that referee <strong>Larry Farina</strong> should have used his own better judgment and ignored the “throwing the ball high in the air” rule, the fact is, all refs answer to supervisors who scrutinize their every call.<br /><br />But then I read <strong>Jon Wilner</strong>’s <a href="http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2008/09/09/pac-10-ratings-officially-the-league-has-a-huge-problem" target="_blank">alarming blog entry</a> Wednesday about the Pac-10’s credibility crisis. Do you know who the Pac-10’s coordinator of officials – e.g., Farina’s boss -- is? It’s <strong>Dave Cutaia</strong>, who in 2006 served as the head official for the OREGON-OKLAHOMA game!<br /><br />Farina, meanwhile, has his own sordid past. He was the head official for last season’s Washington-Oregon State game, in which the refs lost control of the game so badly that the entire crew was suspended from working a bowl game.<br /><br />With so much at stake in these games -- potential bowl bids, championships and, in Willingham’s case, possibly his job -- how can the Pac-10 continue to run its officiating division like it’s a circus show? Is the league really that oblivious to just how badly its credibility gets stained every time the rest of the country gets exposed to these shenanigans?</p> <p>Chances are, Saturday’s game will not be anywhere close enough to be decided by a single call, but if I were Stoops, I wouldn’t take any chances. Pull an <strong>Urban Meyer</strong> in the final minutes if need be, because clearly, these guys are capable of screwing up just about anything.</p> 3101 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/940/61/thumb/mandel_stewart.jpg 2 NY

Stewart Mandel

New York 94361