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Britt Casteel said 05/21, 11:51 PM
The "Tornado" courageously retired prematurely from Nippon Professional Baseball (NPB) in 1995 despite intense hostile criticism to become the first East Asian star player to migrate to Major League Baseball (MLB), and dramatically succeeded, globally internationalizing baseball by paving the path to MLB for countless other East Asians to follow, and undoubtedly contributing to the eventual staging of the extremely popular World Baseball Classic initially won by Japan, etc. In addition, "Nomomania??? significantly contributed to salvaging the future of MLB following the near-fatal 1994-1995 players' strike. Furthermore, Nomo is one of only four pitchers in MLB history to throw a no-hitter in both leagues and five pitchers to lead both leagues in strikeouts (all others are or will be inducted), as well as earned numerous awards of achievement in NPB, and led Japan in winning the Silver Medal in the 1988 Seoul Olympics. As a result, Nomo has won a total of 201 professional games, 78 in NPB and 123 in MLB. Furthermore, considering 300 wins as an absolute requirement is illogical, and starting pitchers should be inducted based on their overall achievements and contributions to the game.
Jacob Luft said 05/22, 07:42 AM
Hideo Nomo had some really outstanding years, but if you let him into Cooperstown, then you have to allow Bert Blyleven, Orel Hershiser, Tommy John, and a host of other pitchers who were very, very good but fell short of the 75 percent of votes needed by the BBWAA.
Britt Casteel said 05/23, 12:54 AM
1) I think that considering 300 wins as an absolute requirement for H.O.F. induction of starting pitchers in the recent decades of increased power hitting and relief pitching is illogical. Furthermore, a certain number of hits or home runs is not considered as an absolute requirement for full-time position players by many persons currently, and even designated hitters are inducted, and a certain number of saves is not considered as an absolute requirement for relief pitchers. Likewise, I think that each player should be inducted based on his own overall achievements and contributions to the game, and consequently I do not equate inducting Nomo with requiring the induction of any other starting pitcher or other player.
2) As I mentioned previously, Nomo also earned numerous awards of achievement in NPB, including leading his league in strikeoutsand in wins several times. While some persons may argue that he would not have done that in MLB, I counter-argue that he did it in NPB, and furthermore that may have done it in MLB as well as he was in his prime years physically .
3) Nomo has pitched the only no-hitter in the history of Coors Field.
4) The legendary Tornado windup.
Jacob Luft said 05/23, 07:41 AM
According to Baseball-Reference.com, Nomo's career park-adjusted ERA+ is only 98. (100 is average; anything under 100 is below average and over 100 is above average.) He pitched much of his career in friendly ballparks for pitchers (i.e. Dodger Stadium).
Britt Casteel said 05/23, 07:24 PM
On the other hand, if Negro League performances can be included in H.O.F. induction judgments, I consider excluding NPB performances to be illogical, as NPB also is a very competitive, highly skilled league.
By the way, although Japanese already earn a reasonably comfortable salary residing in a very high standard-of-living country, as well as experience much greater differences with the culture and language and cuisine and region etc. of the United States than Latin Americans do for example, many other star NPB players also desired to play in MLB before Nomo, however they felt constrained due to facing obstacles such as the NPB 10-year Free Agency eligibility system and the fear of not being allowed to resume to play in NPB later.
Anway, if Nomo's induction into the U.S. National Baseball Hall of Fame is based solely on statistics such as his MLB E.R.A. and win total, and not on the invaluable impact the Tornado has imparted with his outstanding skill, play, courage, and mystique to both salvaging the present and enhancing the future of both MLB within the United States and the game of baseball throughout the world, I consider it to be a signficant loss for the H.O.F.
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No way Jose! Hideo can be in the Golden Club in Japan, my home country! But no American hall of fame! Only Molly Ringwald should be in there! Nomo declined as a pitcher after his initial season with the Dodgers. And a no-hitter doesn't entitle you to the Hall.
The Phantom ****-er
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Don't throw out his numbers cause he sucked, if you want to say he opened the doors for asians to come here and play i would understand why he got voted in
dcalamari
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hmmm no argument from the other guy and 3 votes i don't like that. people need to vote on the argument
Panthers11
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Well, anyone who could throw a no-hitter against the Rockies at Coors Field during a time in which there were no humidors, and the 12-10 score was more than commonplace, isn't someone who sucked.
Anyone who could throw 2 no-hitters is someone with talent.
adams300
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he is like borje salmin in the nhl....he was a pioneer in international waters.....nuff said
ballingjoe
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YOu can't include what he did in Japan, it's like including numbers from somebody's AAA days or something , it's what you do in the Majors and he didn't accomplish enough
steve80984
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I'd love to read more about Molly Ringwald's Hall of Fame credentials. Speaking of which, how about a throwdown on Pretty in Pink vs. Sixteen Candles?
Jacob Luft
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Sixteen Candles...anyont that would give up her panties gets my vote.
cdbbigdaddy
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Blylevn should be in.
thejetstolehome:…
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I'm not going to say that Hideo Nomo should be a Hall of Famer, but I believe that Britt makes some good points in his argument...especially about the standards voters have with pitchers, and why it is ridiculous for these same people to turn their backs on guys who had excellent careers(i.e. Bert Blyleven) and slight them because they did not reach a specific win total that is becoming more and more elusive in today's level of baseball.
But, on the subject of Hideo Nomo, he did have a very good career, and I certainly am of the belief that his impact upon major league baseball has been undervalued over the years, which is unfortunate and just plain wrong. It just happened that Nomo debuted here in the states back in 1995, when Cal Ripken was on the verge of setting the consecutive games mark, but while the country was so engulfed upon this record that, theoretically(and I'm sure that I'll get blasted for saying this) could be perceived as a measure of ignoring the better interests of a team over time, a player such as Nomo could come over here and absolutely dominate the way he did for much of that year.
Major league baseball by 1995 was a caldron of much anger, disgust, apathy, discontentment, disillusionment, etc, etc, etc. by it's fanbase over the heinous crime committed the year before. Major league baseball, without any shadow of a doubt, desperately needed someone to capture the imagination of those who were still enraged over the World Series cancellation(among other points of shame baseball had brought on to itself), and Hideo Nomo was the one who made baseball intriguing again.
This guy, who came to America so anonymously to try his hand at the major league game, would be the one who would help to begin the healing of the breach between fan and the baseball establishment.
What people forget about that season is that it took an absolutely superhuman year by Greg Maddux(19-2 with an ERA around 1.50) to, in effect, stand in the way of a Cy Young award in Nomo's name...
As it is, everyone believed so thoroughly that the McGwire-Sosa home run chase of 1998 was the seal that finally adhesed so many of those prior wounds, but is that really true with what has been exposed nowadays with the steroid factor in baseball?
So, perhaps the Nomo impact on baseball back in '95 should be more appreciated now. Not so much for his being the inspiration for any number of the Japanese League veterans to try their luck here in the states, which is a very big deal, of course, but how Nomo, himself, could reinvigorate people's interest in a league that was in major trouble.
Should he be a Hall of Famer for this? No.
But, hey, on the bright side, at least Nomo was a Yankee...sort of...so, that'll influence a few of the voters, right? That's way more invaluable than Molly Ringwald's Hall of Fame credentials.
Sorry, Molly. I loved you as a kid, but no Cooperstown honor for you. :(
adams300
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Pretty in Pink had the better soundtrack.
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