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  • January 16, 2008 07:53 PM ET

NTDL Throwdown: dyhard vs dwade: East Playoff Teams

Dyhard:Homecoming Week (248-186-35) vs dwade82697 aka snash82697 (31-49-3)
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Name the 8 playoff teams and the two next teams.

1.Boston Celtics
2.Detroit Pistons
3.Orlando Magic
4.Cleveland Cavaliers
5.Toronto Raptors
6.Washington Wizards
7.Indiana Pacers
8.Atlanta Hawks

9.New Jersey Nets
10.Milwaukee Bucks


1. Boston Celtics
2. Detroit Pistons
3. Orlando Magic
4. Cleveland Cavaliers
5. Washington Wizards
6. Toronto Raptors
7. Altlanta Hawks
8. New Jersey Nets

9. Indiana Pacers
10. Milawakee Bucks


I picked the Pacers over the Nets because the Pacers are doing well. I don't really have the much confidence in the Pacers.

They meet four times yet, but I don't think that the Nets are going to be good enough to make it there.

The Nets need to win some games and they don't have great players. Vince Carter, Jason Kidd, and Richard Jefferson. Those are the good players.

Jason Kidd is averaging a double-double. Yes that is good, but he is mostly the only one doing much. They don't have good talent down low because Kidd is leading the team in rebounds. Since that is happening, I don't think that the Nets will make it to the playoffs.

The Pacers have Mike Dunleavy, leading the team with 17.5 points per game. They have Jeff Foster leading the team with 8.3 rebounds per game. They have Jermaine O'Neal who is leading the team with 2.24 blocks per game. Jamaal Tinsley is averaging 8.5 assists per game and is leading the team.

The Pacers have a good overall team. They don't have just one or two players dominating. They have 4 players leading 4 different categories.

Danny Granger is averaging 17 points per game. He is also contributing a lot to the Pacers.

More coming


So Kidd is the only one contributing, huh? Ok, here are five more successful players and key statistic(s) for that player:


Vince Carter: 21.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 4.8 apg(second leading scorer, 2.7 ppg more than the Pacers' leading scorer)



Richard Jefferson- 23.9 ppg, 4.3 rpg



Sean Williams- 1 block every 10.45 minutes(O'Neal-1 block every 14.01 minutes), 1 point every 2.82 minutes




Josh Boone- 1 rebound every 3.42 minutes



Jamaal Magloire- 1 rebound every 3.11 minutes




So, there are 6 contributers on the Nets.




The Nets average 1.1 turnovers per game less than the Pacers, .5 more assists per game, and a higher assist/turnover ratio. In other words, they take care of the ball better.



Oh, and if they were in the same division, the Nets would be 2 games ahead of the Pacers. And, it's all about winning to get to the playoffs!



Your turn.



P.S. Jason Kidd is a GREAT, not good player. 1.4 rpg away from a triple-double AVERAGE, that's great.


The Pacers come closer to their opponent per game than the Nets.

Pacers:

103.6 pts/game

opponents:

105.0 pts/game

Nets:
93 pts per game

opponents:

97.8 pts per game

The Pacers come closer to their opponent and if you do that in more games, you are going to win more games. You will win more games because you are closer and so when you are closer, it is easier to win.

The Pacers have three other players that are good players also.

Jamaal Tinsley:
13.4 pts/game
4 rebounds/game

Jermaine O'Neal:
15.3 pts/game
7.3 rebounds/game
2.5 assists/game

Troy Murphy:
10.3 pts/game
6.9 rebounds/ game

Those areo some good players and they help the Pacers a lot.

Just because the Nets average 1.1 less turnovers per game, doesn't really do a lot.

The Nets aren't as good as the Pacers, and the Nets will not be making the playoffs.


Ok, let's look at probability of the wins for the rest oof the season according to strength of schedule.


Games left against teams with 5-10 wins: NJ-3;IND-3.



Games left against teams with 10-15 wins:NJ-8;IND-7.




Games left against teams with 16-20 wins:NJ-11;IND-16.




The rest of the schedule is made up of good teams. So, basicaly, my point is this: the Nets have an easier schedule, which will most likely lead to more wins. Wins get you to the playoffs.


And happy voting.

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January 18, 2008  03:27 PM ET
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Good luck.

January 18, 2008  08:04 PM ET
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1 Boston vs 8 Chicago (Boston 4)
2 Detroit vs 7 Toronto (Det 5)
3 Wash vs 6 Cleveland (Wiz 6)
4 Orlan vs 5 NJ (NJ 6)

Boston vs NJ (Boston 5)
Detroit vs Wiz (Detroit 6)

Boston vs Detroit (Boston 6)

January 18, 2008  08:04 PM ET
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9 Atlanta
10 Indy

January 18, 2008  08:06 PM ET
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Pacers will fade

Nets are a veteran team that is going to be tough come playoff team......

January 18, 2008  10:54 PM ET
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No Bulls?

Cmon!

 
January 19, 2008  07:58 PM ET
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I thought that dyhard had better arguements.

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