Views
18
Comments
23
  • February 17, 2008 08:16 PM ET

All AFC East Team

Trent Votes McCain (24-8-3) vs Tigers VC15 (44-37-6)
12
Votes
15
Votes
12
Votes
15
Votes


QB:Tom Brady
RB:Thomas Jones
RB:Marshawn Lynch
WR:Randy Moss
WR:Wes Welker
TE:Ben Watson

DST/k: New England Patriots


QB-Tom Brady
RB1-Marshawn Lynch*
RB2-Thomas Jones*
WR1-Randy Moss
WR2-Wes Welker
WR3-Jerricho Cotchery
TE-Chris Baker*

DST/K-Patriots

Reserves
RB-Laurence Maroney
WR-Lee Evans
TE-Benjamin Watson

If anyone is wondering why Ronnie Brown is not apart of either of our lists it is because we agreed before hand that you can't use him.

*=differnces


First of all maybe you thought I did, but my RB's arn't put in a specific order. I just put them in there. Second, I don't have 3 WR. So neither should you. I'm only counting Welker and Moss for you. I don't have reserves either so, I am not counting any of them either. So finally we get to the only thing you didn't argue about, the TE's. Lets take a look at stats shall we?

Watson: REC 39 | YDS 389 | TD 6
Baker: REC 41 | YDS 409 | TD 3

As you can see the stats are close. Now, these two tight ends go beyond statistics. Ben Watson is a way bigger threat in open field situations. Chris Baker is a nice goal line option, sort of like a Mike Vrabel. Ben Watson is also 10x the linemen baker is. Watson may not have exactly the Receving talent as Baker does, but in my opinion Watson is a better all-around TE.


Forfeited Turn


Alright i'll take it


The stats are very close but.... Ben Watson's QB was (drum roll) Tom Brady! And Chris Bakers QB was.....Kellen Clemens and Chad Pennington! That makes a HUGE HUGE difference. Baker has more receptions and recieving yards while catching passes from two different QBs and two that dont even come close to the talent of Brady.

I garuntee if you switched Baker with Watson and Baker went to NE and Watson went to NY Bakers stats would double and Watsons stats would diminesh to nothing.

Also what proof exactly do you have about Watson being a better blocker? Watson wasn't even an important role as far as blocking meant to New England.

Baker is the MUCH better all around TE and his stats show it 100 percent.

February 17, 2008  09:07 PM ET

Nice way to mix it up you guys...

NOT

February 17, 2008  09:09 PM ET

who could i have put ahead of Brady Moss,Welker and the Pats D?????

February 18, 2008  10:10 AM ET

I would have just said the entire Patriots team

February 20, 2008  04:37 PM ET

How can you put Jones above Lynch???

Vote---------------------------------->>>>>>

February 20, 2008  04:54 PM ET

close one!

February 20, 2008  05:27 PM ET

tough vote here since there is only one difference,but as a jet fan i no that baker is underrated and is much better than Watson

February 20, 2008  07:55 PM ET

I DIDN'T PUT THEM IN A SPECIFIC ORDER JESUS DO YOU GUYS ACTUALLY READ THE ARGUMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

February 20, 2008  07:57 PM ET

I do have proof fernandez. How many times did Brady get sacked out watsons side. I looked on ESPN.com. and according to J.A Adande 91.21% of the time Brady was sacked the opposite side of Watson. Plus just watch some of the games and see the technique of Watson.

February 20, 2008  08:28 PM ET

Ok TRENT SHUT YOUR DAMN MOUTH YOUR SO COCKY AND AROGANT YOUR JUST MAD WELL YOU KNOW WHY

YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN A NEW ENGLAND GAME YOU LOSER YOU LIVE IN FLORDIA. I DONT CARE ONE BIT THAT JA ADANDE SAID BLABLABLA YOU HAVE NO PROOF BECAUSE WATSON WAS NOT A MAIN BLOCKING ROLE SO SHUT YOUR MOUTH! WATSON ROTATES SIDES TOO, YOU COCKY PIECE OF TRASH FOR SOMEONE THAT BRAGS ABOUT BEING A GREAT BLOCKER YOU DONT REALIZE THAT THE TIGHT END MOVES AROUND???????

BAKER IS SO UNDERRATED IT IS NOT EVEN FUNNY! HE HAS BETTER NUMBER CATCHES AND RECIVING YARDS FOR A PLAYER THAT PLAYED ON A CRAPPY JETS TEAM WITH CLEMENS AS A QB IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH THAT THEN YOUR NUTS.

February 21, 2008  03:30 PM ET

i see trent using your other accounts to vote YOUR FING CO/CK

February 21, 2008  03:42 PM ET

bleedgreen5 and bullshopeful09 are TRENT

February 21, 2008  03:44 PM ET

seriously trent for some one who is supposed to be a friend.... you need to cheat to win on a website

February 21, 2008  03:59 PM ET

WHAT THE ****, THATS NOT ME YOU **** FACE!!!! WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU MAKE STUFF UP TO HELP YOU WIN, ITS PRETTY OBVIOUS BengalsAFCchamps09 is you. TRY KEEPING YOUR MOUTH SHUTE ONCE AND A WHILE, GOING ON WITH YOUR ASSUMPTIONS. YOU ARE THE BIGGEST PIECE OF **** I HAVE EVER KNOWN,. I KNEW EVENTUALLY IT WOULD GET LOW BETWEEN US ON FN BUT TO COME OUT AND BLATINLY LIE ABOUT SOMETHING TO GET A WIN? GO **** YOUSELF

February 21, 2008  04:04 PM ET

**** OFF YOU GELANTIS PIECE OF **** SWEAR RIGHT ON YOUR **** THAT BLEEDGREEN5 AND BULLSHOPEFUL ARE YOU. YOU ARE CHAETING SO YOU CAN WIN YOU **** DONT **** LIE TO ME IM NOT A **** IDIOT YOU TOLD ME AT SCHOOL THAT BLEEDGREEN5 AND BULLS WERE YOU YOUR THE BIGGEST **** IVE EVER MEANT. YOU MADE A DEAL THAT YOU WOULDNT CHEAT. SUCK ON A KNOB YOU SHOULD CHANGE YOUR NAME TO THE SENIOR PRUDE YOU DICK BECAUSE YOU SPEN TO MUCH TIME ON THE COMPUTER! YOU CHEATED YOU LIED TO MY **** FACE AGAIN YOU HAVE PULLED THIS **** ON ME TWICE YOPU DICK YOUR CHEATIONG TO WIN

February 21, 2008  04:05 PM ET

NO **** BENGALS IS ME IF YOUR GUNNA CHEAT DAMN WELL SO AM I

February 21, 2008  04:07 PM ET

**** YOU I DIDN'T VOTE YOU CHEAP **** ****!! STOP BLAMING ME FOR THINGS I DIDN'T DO YOU PIECE OF ****

February 21, 2008  04:10 PM ET

02/21/08 09:59 BleedGreen5 voted
02/21/08 10:00 BullsHopeful23 voted

February 21, 2008  04:11 PM ET

HOW IS THAT PROOF? ITS TWO NAMES?

February 21, 2008  04:11 PM ET

ummmm well those are your accounts and you voted with them and when i checked before school i was winnin 12-11 then you got two votes by yourself

 
February 21, 2008  04:11 PM ET

YOUR DAMN ACCCOUNTS

Comment

Remember to keep your posts clean. Profanity will get filtered, and offensive comments will be removed.


Leaderboard

  Fan W L T Win %
1 YODA 46 3 2 92.2%
2 Porkins: You're all my dupes 154 14 1 91.4%
3 Detroit... 132 9 8 91.3%
4 The Ram 148 17 4 88.8%
5 Baun-de... 61 7 2 88.6%
6 FoosBal... 82 12 2 86.5%
7 Hyped78 128 19 5 85.9%
8 PhillyE... 75 11 4 85.6%
9 [The] Coach 103 18 5 83.7%
10 Sooner in WA- beat Tex Tech 53 12 3 80.1%

Truth & Rumors

MOST POPULAR

  1. 1
    Red Sox to break bank for Teixeira
    Views
    22581
    Comments
    1269
  2. 2
    T.O. frustrated with Cowboys offense
    Views
    10833
    Comments
    1170
  3. 3
    Would Red Sox dare to shop Big Papi?
    Views
    7695
    Comments
    1090
  4. 4
    Romo takes homeless man to movie
    Views
    6651
    Comments
    606
  5. 5
    Big 12 could get 3 BCS bids
    Views
    16541
    Comments
    314

Most Active Users

Comments + Blog Posts + Throwdowns

  1. 1
    PimpyLooka
  2. 2
    bcoltrinari
  3. 3
    Epoch1
  4. 4
    Dyhard is Jimmie Johnson
  5. 5
    Three Tracks In Dirt

Message Boards

  1. MMA > Fight Club

    Dana White, UFC, Release Fitch…
    Views
    893
    Replies
    19
  2. MMA > Fight Club

    A mockery, or publicity boost?
    Views
    620
    Replies
    6
  3. MMA > Fight Club

    Fitch Back
    Views
    300
    Replies
    4

Blogs