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  • February 26, 2008 09:59 AM ET

Best Infield in Baseball

NYY lifer SF49 (15-14-1) vs Trent Votes McCain (24-8-3)
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The best infield in baseball-this includes the combined talents of the 1st basemen, 2nd basemen, 3rd basemen and Shortstop. No catcher/pitcher.

The Phillies. Simply, because of there offense. Ryan Howard, Chase Utley and Jimmy Rollins are NL MVP candidates each and every year when healthy, including Howard and Rollins winning the last two.

Adding Pedro Feliz, who hast hit at least 20 home runs each of the past four years gives this team a solid veteran and the best infield in baseball.


As much as I agree there is one team who you skipped over. THE DETROIT TIGERS!

1B: Carlos Guillen
2B: Placido Polanco
SS: Edgar Renteria
3B: Miguel Cabrera

You didn't put catcher because the Phils don't have a good one obviously. Placido was argubaly the best 2B men in the MLB. Edgar had a great year as always. Cabrera had a phenominal year(better then Pedro Feliz) and Guillen had a great year.

Plus, defensivly, the side you opted to argue, is better than the phils. Ryan Howard is one of the worst fielding 1B men in the NL. Guillen a former shortstop is much better. Polanco had a 1.000 fielding percentage!! Utley was good at a .985 fielding percentage but not as good as placido. Rollins was the MVP last season so not a lot of people are better than him, thinking about in all in all though The Tigers are simply better


Sorry about a similar article, didnt see it there at all.

I clearly stated in the rules that we werent using pitchers or catchers, so to bring that up is silly. To claim that the positions we are arguing, the ones you agreed to argue, are stronger in Detroit than they are in Philadelphia is outrageous.

Ryan Howard: had a DOWN year and hit 47 Hr's and drove in 136. In his MVP season he hit .313, hit 58 bombs and drove in 149. He is clearly in an elite class and is one of the most feared hitters in the game already.

Chase Utley: a career .300 hitter, battled injuries last season but still hit .332, hit 22 home runs and drove in over 100 runs. He also scored over 100 runs, these numbers should only go up with a few more at bats this season.

Jimmy Rollins: Reigning MVP, guaranteed the playoffs last season and delivered. Hit .296 with 30 HR's as a leadoff hitter. Had over 200 hits and stole over 40 bases.

Pedro Feliz: Offseason addition has hit at least 20 home runs each of the past 4 years.Solid veteran that extends potent lineup.

The only position the Tigers have here is third base. Guillen, Polanco and Renteria simply dont come close.


POLANCO WAS BETTER THAN UTLEY LAST SEASON! You cannot deny that. Plus your completely ignoring the fact of defense. It seems every TD i take and every one I make someone forgets about the defensive statistic(hey that rhymes!!).

I told you Rollins was better than Renteria let's not put salt on the wound ok. Now over to 1B, of couse you only bring up only the offensive stats and not the defensive. Sure his hitting is phenominal but I wouldn't count Guillen out. Guillen was a great 5th hitter for the Tigers last season.

2nd Base. Utley vs Polanco. Probably the 2 best 2B men in the MLB. But, Polanco was better, and here's some of the stats to prove it.

Polanco: 200 H 36 2b's 5 3b's 10HR 67RBI 10SB .341BA
Utley: 176H 48 2b's 5 3b's 22HR 103RBI 9SB .332BA

As you can see each person takes 3 out of the 7 stats and 1 of the stats is tied (3b's). Then it comes down to defense and as I stated above Polanco wins. I know all the stuff about Chase fighting an injury, since were talking about philly, was Donvan McNabb cut any slack after he battled injury? I don't think so. Placido is better. Thats why the tigers have the #1 infield


Forfeited Turn


OK AND TO THE BELOW I DONT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT CHASE BEING HURT, THAT DOESN'T AFFECT HIS FIELDING OR BATTING AVERAGE!

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February 26, 2008  10:08 AM ET
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gonna have to run, but i'll read your argument and post another later today.

February 26, 2008  10:10 AM ET
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it's ok, I just got roped into a conference call anyway.

February 26, 2008  10:39 AM ET
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I'm doing this same TD and it was on the TD main page when you started this one NYY lifer.

February 26, 2008  10:45 AM ET
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So. He didn't take your side of the argument. And your opponent didn't exactly go into detail about anything.

February 26, 2008  10:45 AM ET
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I know....just bringing up a point of being original.

February 26, 2008  10:47 AM ET
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Yeah, it's always better to be original.

February 26, 2008  10:48 AM ET
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Unless you're Doritoes.

February 26, 2008  10:58 AM ET
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If Carlos Delgado hits like his old self again the Mets could be in this discussion.

February 26, 2008  12:01 PM ET
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Coletrain,

His age and slow decline suggests otherwise.

February 26, 2008  12:27 PM ET
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I wish people would just go to baseball0reference and look at the numbers. This is really not close. The only position Detroit wins is third base. Yes, they win it big, but otherwise, the Phillies are better.

Howard destroys Guillen in every statistical category.
Polanco has an OBP advantage, but Utley takes everything else. His career OPS is 131 points HIGHER.
Renteria is not nearly as good defensively and trails Rollins in every category except RBI (leads by 1) and OBP.

February 26, 2008  12:28 PM ET
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Philles are #1.

February 26, 2008  12:30 PM ET
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I used 162 avgs by the way.

Anyway, all that said, I had a tough time voting left because it's a duplicate TD.

February 26, 2008  02:01 PM ET
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Coletrain has a good point, but Delgado won't hit like he used to next year... and the BrewCrew will win the central division...yeeeeeeeeahhhh

February 26, 2008  03:34 PM ET
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The Phils have great players and I dont see any on the tigers

February 26, 2008  03:38 PM ET
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'Placido was argubaly the best 2B men in the MLB"
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So was Chase Utley

February 26, 2008  03:55 PM ET
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its close. very close. But like Trent says it comes down to Placido and Chase and Placido had a better season

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February 26, 2008  04:08 PM ET
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Chase Utley was hurt for a month.

February 27, 2008  05:02 PM ET
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a-rod, jeter, cano, giambi, posada anyone?????

February 27, 2008  05:03 PM ET
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Trent Is nuts the tIgers. chase Utley is way better offensively. Placido does have a higer average but not a whole lot to back that average up so i would have to go with Utley who is a ocntender for MVP. You have to vote for the Phillies. Three straight MVPs in the indifeld that is just nuts.

 
February 27, 2008  05:03 PM ET
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Duke boy deffiently not.

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