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It would hurt the Cowboys more than it would help them to arrange a trade for the #1 draft pick and get Darren McFadden.

[tcat75] Hamilton for MVP! said 03/01, 07:06 PM
I've heard a lot about the Cowboys moving up in the draft to grab Darren McFadden. I'm sure you have too, but for the heck of it, here is the most likely trade.

Marion Barber (975 yards on 204 carries; 10 Touchdowns) and both first round draft picks for Miami's number 1 overall draft pick. This would ensure that we got McFadden.

Okay, honestly, I would love to have McFadden. A 4.3 40. He strikes me as a Adrian Peterson, personally. Whether he will have as much success, I'm not sure, but I would take a chance on someone like that if I could. If I could.

I honestly do not think the Cowboys are in a position to make a trade like that, logically. They have a great cornerback in Terence Newman, and an above-average one in Anthony Henry, but it became painfully obvious during the end of the regular season and during the one playoff game the 'Boys had that they had CB problems behind their two starters.

During the draft, the Cowboys need to get themselves a good CB, and a young WR who could be the future, because old TO and Glenn won't stay good long, if they even produce this year.

McFadden is good, but the Cowboys don't need another great RB. They have one. Get a position you need.

Stauff Nation TB said 03/01, 08:28 PM
Ok this has been sittin up here forever, and usually if no one else takes it I do. I guess that means everyone agrees with you.

First of all, it's kind of hard to tell if this will help or hurt them, cus either way your going to be speculating how McFadden, the other picks Dallas trades away, and Barber will all do next season.

It's a big risk for Jerry Jones to take, but he's known for taking risks with the Cowboys, and usually they pay off in the long run. This risk could have potentially a HUGE payoff for the Cowboys.

McFadden has the potential to be a fantastic RB in the NFL next season. Many have compared him with Adrian Peterson, who runs similar to DM.

In addition, Barber didn't even have that good of a season last year. He averaged 4.8 ypc and 10 TDs, which is good, but nothing super.

I think going after McFadden would be risky, but worth it in the long run, since he has the potential to become a really good RB in Dallas. With Dallas's already talented team, he won't have the burden to carry Dallas on his back. He could gain experience without as much pressure on him and could grow to be a huge threat.

It's a strong risk, but it's defidently worth it.

[tcat75] Hamilton for MVP! said 03/01, 09:00 PM
Thanks for taking it. And, if the rest of FN agrees with me, then I sure like your underdog spirit.

Yeah, it could be a huge risk with a huge reward, but tell me, do the Cowboys need to take that risk?

They were a 13-3 team, number 1 seed overall in the NFC. They lost to the Giants because A, Crayton can't catch, and B, because they had a awful secondary that let Eli Manning go 80 yards down the field and score in the last 40 seconds of the 1st half. 40 seconds!!

Don't blame the RB for the lose. Barber had over 100 yards in the first half!! Sure, he got worn down in the second, but he was running wild to start the game.

I'm sorry, but 4.8 ypc? That's great! People such as LT, Brian Westbrook, and Maurice Jones-Drew had 4.8 ypc or less! As for ten TD's, remember Romo threw for 36, second only to Brady. Of course MB3 isn't going to get as many TD's. TO's getting them.

The Cowboys aren't a RB away from the Super Bowl. More likely, they need one more CB, one more WR, and perhaps a little more luck.

McFadden is a risk. He could be good, but I'm not going to go risking something when we were so close to the Super Bowl as it is. If it's not broken, don't fix it...

Stauff Nation TB said 03/02, 01:19 AM
So your a Cowboys fan...

No they don't need to take the risk. It's rare when anyone ever really needs to take any risk, but Jerry Jones is the kind of GM that will go out and take that risk if there's any possibility it can benefit the team. That's why he signs ex-cons that no one else wants.

Now if I were in Jones's shoes right now, and the Cowboys just got over an 8-8 season, then I probably wouldnt take the risk, but the team was 13-3 last year with one of the best offenses in the league, and the best defense in the postseason. They're already in good shape, why not try bringin in a guy who has the potential to be one of the leagues greatest RB's, possibly the next LT? (I wouldn't go that far personally, but who knows?)

Also the Cowboys had the 2nd best passing defense in the postseason last year, giving up only 140 yards in their loss to the Giants. So really, the CB's didn't do all that bad of a job.

From your standpoint, I can see why you'd rather hold on to Barber than draft McFadden. I was in your shoes when the Bears drafted Cedric Benson when Thomas Jones was RB, and look at us now.

But the point is, you never really know. I say take the risk. Go for it

[tcat75] Hamilton for MVP! said 03/02, 01:37 PM
For starters, let me remind you this isn't a throwdown on whether Jerry Jones will draft McFadden. I hope he doesn't, but it wouldn't shock me if he made some type of trade. This is a throwdown to whether the Cowboys should draft McFadden or not.

MB3 is proven back on a team that is a Super Bowl contender. The Cowboys have two major weaknesses -- when teams go three WR or more, they don't have a good nickel corner and they have a safety who's bad in coverage.

That corner had a 15-yard facemask that helped the Giants score in 40 seconds. Similarly, the safety took a bad angle on the Giant's first score and he went the distance.

Roy Williams would cost the team too much to get rid of, with his signing bonus. Jacques Reeves is already gone. So even if we had a good passing D, we still are down a corner. The Texans snagged Reeves.

So, obviously, we now need a CB. Newman and Henry are also both in their 30's, so we need one who can become a starter in a few years. That implies a first rounder.

Marion Barber has proven himself. We need another RB, but not a starting RB. McFadden would be a starter, not a backup. What we need is a backup to a proven RB in Barber. Not McFadden.

Stauff Nation TB said 03/02, 05:57 PM
Oh, I know. You just mentioned how risky it was and I was just saying that Jerry Jones takes lots of risks, so I wouln't be surprised if he does make this move.

Barber is good, but McFadden can be so much better! He'd be a huge upgrade for the team. He runs similar to Adrian Peterson, but he stays healthier than him and he's faster. Dallas has a good offensive line, and like I said before, they're the perfect team for offensive rookies right now. They're good all around, so the pressure won't be on DM to make plays. He can gain experience comfortably and become a very good running back.

Obviously with Barber the Cowboys are a Super Bowl contender, but with Darren McFadden, they could be a Super Bowl winner. I think McFadden has more to offer to the team than Barber does, and I think with McFadden on the team the Cowboys would be easily the favorite to win the NFC flat out.

Plus, the Cowboys don't neccesarily need to pick up a CB in the draft. They could also turn to free agency to pick up a CB. Samuel is off the table, but guys like Drayton Florence (who lost his starting job to Antonio Cromartie) and Domonique Foxworth would be great fits for Dallas.

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Barber is a good back and will have over 1000 yards this year,so i dont see why they would give up that and more for mcfadden who will become another reggie bush not an adrian peterson

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It would hurt the Cowboys more than it would help them to arrange a trade for the #1 draft pick and get Darren McFadden.

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