The Joker said 03/05, 10:57 PM
Rules: BEst player/driver that has wore/drove the number 53, and has to be retired.
My pick......
Harry Carson.
Stauff Nation TB said 03/05, 11:44 PM
Gotta go with Don Drysdale
The Joker said 03/06, 02:54 AM
Carson played his entire 13 year career with the New York Gaints. 10 of those 13 years he was one of their captians on the team. He also led the team in tackles 5 years.
Carson was named to the Pro Bowl nine times, including seven straight from 1982 through 1988. Carson also Carson was named first or second team All Pro six times and first or second team All NFC six times.
Most importantly, Carson has one Super Bowl ring. The Gaints defeated the Broncos 39-20. Prehaps the most memorable highlight of Carson's career was during this game when Carson made the "big play" on the Giants' first-half goal line stand when he stuffed Gerald Willhite for no gain. Ummm....... memories!!!!!
Stauff Nation TB said 03/06, 08:32 AM
Drysdale played 12 of his 14 seasons with the Brooklyn/LA Dodgers. He and Sandy Koufax combined for one of the most dangerous pitching duo's in baseball history. The 6x All star led the MLB in K's 3 seasons, one the Cy Young Award in 1962 and had a 2.95 career ERA with 2486 career strikeouts. His record of hitting 154 hitters in his career is still standing.
Drysdale was a 8x All-Star and in 1968 he set a record for 58 straight scoreless innings that stood for 20 years.
Drysdale even hit .300 in 1965 with 7 HR's and 19 RBI's.
In his time with the Dodgers he won 3 World Series and 5 NL Pennants, largely in part to Drysdale's and Koufax's combined pitching, especially since during this time the team's hitting wasn't very good at all. (Their best hitter was considered to be Maury Willis)
Although his career is overshadowed by Koufax's, he was a dominant pitcher in his time.
The Joker said 03/06, 10:08 PM
Carson's 13 year stint with the New York Giants is one of the longest tenures in club history! He was an indestructible linebacker. He is rated the number one "Inside Linebacker" in NFL history according to Pro Football Weekly. Carson was named to the All Rookie Team after his first NFL season. Also during his NFL career, he was named to the All NFL Team 7 times, the All NFC Team 8 times, and NFC Linebacker of the Year twice. He once made an amazing 25 tackles in a Monday Night Football Game against the Green Bay Packers. Carson is among the top 250 players to ever play in the National Football League.
Carson might not be the most recognizable player, like Drysdale, but Carson was also dominate at his position. You mentioned that the Dodgers succuss was largely because of Drysdale's and Koufax's combined pitching. The same thing can be said about the Gaints success was largely in part to "Crunch Bunch." This bunch was a team of fierce linebackers composed of Carson, Brad Van Pelt, Brian Kelley, and Lawrence Taylor.
I don't know about you guys, but he might not be the most known player, but he IS the best player that has wore the number 53!!
Stauff Nation TB said 03/06, 10:33 PM
First of all, Carson is not the best inside linebacker of all time. I don't care what Pro Football Weekly says.
Secondly, what were his stats? I couldn't find how many total tackles he had even on his own website. As far as we can tell you don't know either.
How was Carson indestructable? What were his numbers like? Carson only played all 16 games in a season six times in his 13 year career. So if anything, Carson was destructable.
And you can't define a player's career on one impressive MNF game.
Drysdale and Carson were very similar players. Both had long careers with one team, both played their position well, both were overshadowed by legends on their team who played their position (Koufax and Lawrence Taylor) and both are relatively unknown, but the thing that sets Drysdale from Carson is his stats.
Carson had some impressive numbers, but Drysdale's are better. You can look at my 2nd arguement for a list of all his accomplishments because I don't think I need to list em again.
Both guys had great, long, successful careers, but Drysdale's was just a litter greater and a little more successful.
Drysdale is the best athlete to wear #53.
Good TD, Joker.
Comments (10)
Tough decision...will wait for at least 1 more argument from Stauff.
rstowe - The NMI Emperor | 03/06/08, 07:18 AM
Report Offensive CommentOoh..I'd go with Drysdale on the face of things. But we'll see how this pans out.
Porkins | 03/06/08, 08:27 AM
Report Offensive CommentI can't bring myself to vote for a self-conflicting argument. Was Drysdale a 6x All-Star or an 8x All-Star? Please make up your mind then get back to us.
The Ram | 03/06/08, 09:10 AM
Report Offensive Comment<----Vote because I hate baseball. And his argument is better, but I hate baseball.
RobertMenn: Sambo Practitioner | 03/06/08, 01:09 PM
Report Offensive CommentJeez sorry guys. Made a mistake there. Dunno why I said 6 but he's an 8 time allstar. Sorry
Stauff Nation TB | 03/06/08, 10:09 PM
Report Offensive CommentWill wait,interesting,this should finish well.
"Cincy" The wall | 03/06/08, 10:22 PM
Report Offensive CommentWow Robertmenn,vote to left because you hate baseball,kind of harsh and ignorant.
"Cincy" The wall | 03/06/08, 10:22 PM
Report Offensive CommentCliff Hucstable
he had a mean curve.
J (Browns 19-0) Carbathlee | 03/06/08, 10:26 PM
Report Offensive Commentdang he should argue about number 57 seems the numbers is getting big
mnfanforever | 03/06/08, 10:37 PM
Report Offensive CommentDr. Huxtable... His son Theo also wears his number in honor of his father
Stauff Nation TB | 03/06/08, 10:53 PM
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