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Barry Bonds' 756th Home Run Ball and the Hall of Fame - It belongs despite the asterisk

Dookie: Here We Go Steelers said 03/07, 04:55 PM
Barry Bonds' 756th homerun ball belongs in the Hall of Fame.

Despite Ecko putting the asterisk on the ball, the Hall of Fame is doing the correct thing by putting the ball in the hall. That ball is a piece of history, regardless of how you feel about Barry Bonds.

I personally think Barry is scum, but that ball broke record, and even if MLB bans Barry from the hall, that ball represents a key artifact of the steroid era.

While Steroids are a illegal and banned from the game of baseball, they clearly were a part of the history of this baseball era, and their part in the game should be on display to allow the visitors to the Hall of Fame to draw their own conclusions. This ball represents what steroids have done for the game

I personally don't agree with Ecko branding the ball, but it was part of a deal he made with the public and the ball should not be rejected by the hall for that asterisk. Barry can boycott the hall all he wants, but that ball is a major piece of the history of baseball, and as such, it should be displayed in the Hall.

maddog7493- gone till november said 03/07, 05:19 PM
I think the ball is just a symbol. Why does it matter so much if it gets into the Hall? Whether I think Bonds is a cheater (I do) is irrelevant. Putting it into the Hall shows that the record should not count, a stand MLB has/can not take. If they will put a ball, marked with an asterisk that implys the record is void, and then to say Bonds has the record would be such an inconsisty. I am not saying there should be nothing ackgnowledging Bond's HR. Put the batting gloves he was wearing. Or the bat. Or something. But dont waffle and flip flop, saying in one part of the Hall that he is the HR King, and in another part saying he is the HR King*.

Dookie: Here We Go Steelers said 03/07, 05:39 PM
"Why does it matter so much if it gets into the Hall?"
--Because that ball broke the all-time home run record. A record that is probably the biggest and most treasured record in all of baseball.

"Putting it into the Hall shows that the record should not count, a stand MLB has/can not take."
--Actualy, I disagree. Not putting the ball into the Hall would show that the record should not count. The HOF is going to have a writeup about the ball with the display that will explain the history of the ball and how the asterisk came to be placed on the ball. It will then be up to the individuals to decide if the record should stand.

"If they will put a ball, marked with an asterisk that implys the record is void, and then to say Bonds has the record would be such an inconsisty."
-the HOF did not put the asterisk on the ball, Ecko did. The writeup will reflect that. What's the implication if no ball appears in the HOF?

"Put the batting gloves he was wearing. Or the bat. Or something."
-The actual baseball is what the historians treasure. I'm not sure why that is the case, but the balls from other historic events seem to represent more to a fan. I say put everything in

maddog7493- gone till november said 03/07, 06:07 PM
i understand that the ball in the past was deemed more important than batting gloves etc., but this is different. Why should the man that marked it with an asterisk get to have his opinion agreed with. In putting the ball in with the asterisk, it makes it seem as if Bonds deserves the asterisk. If they do not put it in b/c of the asterisk, they are saying they will not tolerate someone being guilty before proven so.

Dookie: Here We Go Steelers said 03/07, 06:13 PM
"Why should the man that marked it with an asterisk get to have his opinion agreed with."
--in case you aren't aware of the situation, the public voted for him to put the asterisk on. (the other options were to just turn the ball in or send it into outer space) so it's not just the owner of the ball who decided this. I personally voted for the asterisk. This way, when the ball is in the hall many years from now, the conversation can be had among viewers, "is this record legit?"

"If they do not put it in b/c of the asterisk, they are saying they will not tolerate someone being guilty before proven so."
--the write up about the ball in the hall will just give the history of how the ball got there. I'm sure it will say that the public voted to have this asterisk placed on the ball, and it is in no way a mark of damnation by the hall itself. This way, people should be open minded and discuss what they actually think.

(On a side note since I have a little bit extra space) I think there should be a new, seperate steroid wing of the hall. This way the players whose numbers show they should be HOFers get in, but they will be in among other steroid users....

maddog7493- gone till november said 03/08, 09:36 AM
NO. The Hall cannot be part of the steiroid controversey. It is one thing when the league gets involved, as they need to clean up the game. However, the hall of fame is different. It is sacred part of baseball llore. You cannot have somthing that represents the worst part of the games history in it.

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I think someone was listening to the Dan Patrick Show this morning.

majornice | 03/07/08, 05:19 PM

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Barry Bonds' 756th Home Run Ball and the Hall of Fame - It belongs despite the asterisk

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