Throwdowns > Completed
- Views
- 8
- Comments
- 24
- March 26, 2008 01:08 PM ET
- Share
tgriff89 said 03/26, 01:08 PM
the best baseball player of all time is Willie Mays. A player who possessed the rare talent of speed, power, and defense. Although he may not have pitched and hit as many home runs as the normal pick BAbe Ruth, Willie Mays was a far better athlete. Playing in a non-steroid era and to put up the stats he did at the time were remarkable and he did it with a great amount of calss as well.
gonets said 03/26, 01:17 PM
Babe Ruth would be the obvious choice here, so to avoid the obvious i will say Joe DiMaggio. Since you stated best PLAYER, I picked DiMaggio for his all around play. He currently holds the record for consecutive game hit streak with 56. A record that probaby will never be broken. It doesnt matter whethr those hits were HRs, triples, doubles, singles, they wer hits, all around. He was also a superb defender. More to come.
tgriff89 said 03/26, 01:19 PM
Although DiMaggio was a outstanding player. He is not as good a player as Mays. Mays is third or fourth on the HR's lists, perhaps one of the best fielders of all time and hit for a very consistent average. Also, DiMaggio never was much of a base stealer
gonets said 03/26, 01:29 PM
DiMaggio didnt have to be much of a base stealer. He oftentimes set the table for others with his outstanding hitting. He was a career, CAREER .325 hitter. Also, you mentioned Mays was 3rd or fourth all time in HRs. So what? As great as he is, being a good PLAYER doesnt mean swatting home runs all the time. Take for example ARod (no offense to ARod homers out there). If you look at his past 2 seasons, the majority of his HRs came with no one on base, and werent even directly affecting the result fo games, except for a coupleof walkoffs last April. His batting average with RISP was a mer .167. So HRs dont define a player.
DiMaggio was an All Star from 1936-1942, and again from 1946-1951, he was AL MVP in 1939, 1941, and 1947. He won the batting title in 1939 and 1940.
He was also en excellent fielder. In 13 seasons, he had a total of 105 errors at his position, which averages out to a little over 8 a year, which is about 1 every 18 games. And DiMaggio ahd the ability to take off for 3 years for WWII. And when he came back from war, he was still a VERY effective baseball player.
tgriff89 said 03/26, 04:01 PM
Although Mays is third or fourth on the HR list that dosn't mean thats all he was. Mays was good an every aspect of the game besides pitching. And although DiMaggio was one of the best to ever play, maybe the three year hiatus from baseball might have made his numbers a little stronger. What if in those three years he had a hitting slump or hit under .300? that would increasingly drop his career average.
Now i'm not saying Joe wasn't a great baseball player cuz he was i just think that if you compared the numbers between Mays and DiMaggio besides the outstanding hitting streak, Mays would beat DiMaggio in almost every category
gonets said 03/26, 04:18 PM
Well it turns out Joe did play baseball while he was serving in the military, so a hitting slump was possible, but never achieved. He played on his military squad. And the three year hiatus did make his numbers stronger. You say mays was good in every aspect of the game but you dont specify what those aspects were. You only say he was a great HR hitter. So is ARod. So is Bonds. Heck, I was even a good HR hitter when I played in high school. Does that mean Im the best? Heck no! Half the lineup I played with was better than me.
As great a player as Mays is...no, as outstanding a player as Mays was, DiMaggio is better all around. And if Mays is, you failed to mention why.
Leaderboard
| Fan | W | L | T | Win % | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | DetroitFan* BS: Start Stanton! | 132 | 9 | 7 | 91.6% |
| 2 | Porkins | 138 | 13 | 1 | 91.1% |
| 3 | Baun-ded=PUCKHEAD | 52 | 5 | 1 | 90.5% |
| 4 | The Ram | 138 | 17 | 4 | 88.1% |
| 5 | Foosball | 70 | 9 | 2 | 87.7% |
| 6 | Philly-- www.sportsnoise.com | 74 | 11 | 4 | 85.4% |
| 7 | Hyped78 | 114 | 19 | 5 | 84.4% |
| 8 | Dookie: Here We Go Steelers | 117 | 19 | 8 | 84.0% |
| 9 | [The] Coach | 97 | 18 | 5 | 82.9% |
| 10 | BSchwartz07 | 129 | 27 | 6 | 81.5% |
Web's Best Blogs
-
Every Day Should Be Saturday
Edsbsgps: where we at, week 7
October 10, 2008 The weekends agenda: ORSON (Gainesville): Texas vs. Oklahoma, Notre Dame @ UNC,…
-
Free Darko
FD Guest Lecture: Very Cross-Eyed But Extremely Solid
No comments yet. Close this window A report from Bobcats camp, by . He's previously posted here…
-
Fire Joe Morgan
Albert Pujols Was Not A Good Enough Pitcher To Win The MVP
FIRE JOE MORGAN Where Bad Sports Journalism Comes To Die FJM is a closed forum, but we welcome…
Truth & Rumors
MOST POPULAR
-
1
Witness: Pacman was yelling at girlfriend
- Views
- 13473
- Comments
- 1790
-
2
Red flag on Teixeira
- Views
- 9574
- Comments
- 474
-
3
Why Andruw Jones won't join Dodgers
- Views
- 41417
- Comments
- 83
-
4
Browns DE trash talks Giants RB
- Views
- 7827
- Comments
- 81
-
5
Huskies eyeing Mizzou's Pinkel?
- Views
- 7790
- Comments
- 73
Message Boards
-
MMA > Fight Club
Would you rather see Arlovski…
- Views
- 623
- Replies
- 7
-
NCAAF > General NCAAF
Around the Table
- Views
- 131
- Replies
- 53
-
NCAAF > General NCAAF
Who's got the best tailgate…
- Views
- 72
- Replies
- 13



Irina Shayk
Anne V

Comments (24) Add A Comment
gl Willis...i was just a click away from taking this one
gonets
Lewisville, TX
Total Comments (6453)
You got it. I don't have the heart to TD against a Giant legend like Mays.
Cain-Willis. In…
Fountain Of Youth, CA
Total Comments (3494)
thanks man, listen I dont have the heart either, but I'll do my best...Mays was a great man
gonets
Lewisville, TX
Total Comments (6453)
IS, a great man. He ain't dead yet.
Cain-Willis. In…
Fountain Of Youth, CA
Total Comments (3494)
yeah true, i meant IS...
gonets
Lewisville, TX
Total Comments (6453)
Better arguments from gonets, but still, DiMaggio isn't better than Mays.
Cain-Willis. In…
Fountain Of Youth, CA
Total Comments (3494)
Gotta vote for the better arguments...so my vote goes to nets....will change if tgrif makes a great argument for his final one....
rstowe
Newport News , VA
Total Comments (21444)
Better arguments from gonets, but still, DiMaggio isn't better than Mays.
Willis..sez hey... | 03/26/08, 01:31 PM
As much as I know you like SF, and as much as I respect you as a TDer, if my arguments are better, popular opinion sould not be a factor
gonets
Lewisville, TX
Total Comments (6453)
As much as I know you like SF, and as much as I respect you as a TDer, if my arguments are better, popular opinion sould not be a factor
gonets | 03/26/08, 01:35 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Exactly! Vote for the arguments Willis not your personal opinion....
rstowe
Newport News , VA
Total Comments (21444)
Ty Cobb, Honus WAgner, Babe alll good picks.
Chengy: bye FN
Ashland , OH
Total Comments (8281)
Chengy, Babe would have been too obvious...I did think of Cobb, good call on Wagner
gonets
Lewisville, TX
Total Comments (6453)
so far right has actually made an argument. left has just said that Mays was better. Vote to the right for now...
Lilwound
Total Comments (6388)
Unless <--- comes with a good final argument, i am going to change my vote to ---->. What? You thought i would act hypocritically? lol
Cain-Willis. In…
Fountain Of Youth, CA
Total Comments (3494)
lol
gonets
Lewisville, TX
Total Comments (6453)
Willis, your poor argument skills got our TD deleted.
Ghost.
Miami, FL
Total Comments (14560)
And it's not 'popular opinion'. It is my personal opinion that Mays is better than DiMaggio. But <---- is doing a VERY POOR job of argueing what should be an obvious td.
Cain-Willis. In…
Fountain Of Youth, CA
Total Comments (3494)
Willis, your poor argument skills got our TD deleted.
Ghosthunter is spooky! | 03/26/08, 02:01 PM
Hey man! Don't get all sanctimonious on me! You're the one who's entire argument was pasted links to random internet porn sites!!!
lol
Cain-Willis. In…
Fountain Of Youth, CA
Total Comments (3494)
hahahaha.
Ghost.
Miami, FL
Total Comments (14560)
i wouldve have to go with ted williams, mantle, cobb
Girardi is the man…
Overland Park , KS
Total Comments (123)
Babe Ruth IS the obvious choice, because he is the greatest player ever. He pitched and he hit. And he did both very well.
But since this argument is now Mays vs. Joey D, it's obvious that Mays is the better player. Dimaggio played on better teams, thus offering him more opportunities to do great things. Mays didn't always have that around him. Most of his (great) offensive numbers came at a time that the Giants weren't good enough to make the playoffs. Plus, 12 straight Gold Gloves and 20 straight All-Star selections don't hurt a resume, either.
seachickenhawk
Sacramento, CA
Total Comments (143)
Comment
Remember to keep your posts clean. Profanity will get filtered, and offensive comments will be removed.