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What's really interesting to think about is that in 1919 the Black Sox Scandal occurred and it really crushed baseball. The following year they changed the design of the baseball and Babe Ruth emerged as the greatest power hitter the game had ever seen. Baseball was saved by the homerun for the first time.

more debates should be this compelling, this is a subject that can be debated. I hate it when guys throwdown a subject that is obviously very one sided

1919 and 1994 just go to show you that baseball is willing to do anything (completely change how the game is played or look the other way on steroid use) in order to save the game.

Or to make money, however you want to look at it.

Its been proven that McGwire took a substance that was legal at the time of his playing days. Its illegal now. I just dont remember the name of the substance.

I look forward to seeing how this plays out. Great TD.

As unpopular as your topic might be, I like your thinking. However, really nice counter...We'll see what happens.

Mac
The substance was called: androstenodione
it's a precursor to testosterone and was sold legally as a bodybuilding supplement. However, i don't believe it was classified as an anabolic steroid because there's actually no proof the stuff really works like traditional steroids. In combination with other substances, it was supposed to increase your test levels, but it has never actually been validated as such.

WWWD10, man, you hit it on the nose. It's funny how in '98 everyone looked the other way (even though they knew what was going on), and now everyone is trying to get on the "This has to stop and we need to clean up baseball". If '98 didn't happen, baseball would still be suffering.

Great Throwdown!!!

McGwire admitted taking androstenodione - it is technically not an anabolic steroid.

thaks scotty...I was on a similar subject about selig ealier and thought about it.

It won't destroy baseball. But it certainately damages it.

I don't see how baseball has been saved. Television ratings continue to drop. The NFL Draft, which was daytime non-network programming, had a larger audience than any of the games of the World Series last year.

bpeepers - yes, i am...very good list of philosophers. I am a fan of many disciplines...I like the mix of philosophy and mathematics - if you can tell by my debate style, it's very technical and hinges of definitions
my favs
1) Renee Descartes
2) Plato
3) Epicurus
3) Hume
4) Gauss (more mathematical, but still brilliant!)

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wwwd10!!!

the steroids scandal has been thrown around for a few years now...yet every year MLB keeps breaking attendance records! we all know who have used them, yet we still love the game! whatever lil' bumps baseball will have in the future, i dont think will affect it that much....specially if Alex ends up breakin Bonds record! that will mean the record will be own by someone completely clean!