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FCB82 said 04/10, 12:04 PM
This TD has been passed around like a cheap... well, use your imagination.

I'll take Chad Johnson over Roy Williams RIGHT NOW.

I capitalize "RIGHT NOW" because Johnson is more established, accomplished and has more experience. Johnson is a better guarantee of a great WR than Williams. Here's why:

Johnson has 5 consecutive Pro Bowls to Williams 1 (he was an alternate and crept in when Torry Holt was injured)
Johnson has 3 All-Pro selections to Williams 0

The age difference is 4 years so I know some people will say, "Give me the younger guy." My point is that the younger guy MAY (not a guarantee) be better in the future but RIGHT NOW if I was Dallas I would want an immediate solution, 3 - 5 year solution and guarantee that comes with Johnson.

Still not convinced? Here are there stats from last season:
Johnson - REC - 93 YDS - 1440 AVG 15.5 TDs - 8
Williams - REC - 64 YDS 838 AVG 13.1 TDs - 5

Johnson is better across the board. We can't even exam post-season stats because Williams doesn't have any. Again this goes back to my "RIGHT NOW" point. As it stands Johnson has more accomplishments, experience and better stats than Williams. What more do you need?

FCB82 said 04/10, 12:45 PM
Please don't mistake RIGHT NOW with a patch it up fix. I clearly stated that he would ensure success NOW and the next 3-5 years. That's certainly not a quick fix. Winning a Super Bowl means more money. More money means better players. Better players... and the cycle continues. Chad is the better immediate and 3 - 5 year choice for this.

Circus acts? Of course! No-one would go see a Dallas game in Dallas or on the road because they had two of the hottest players in the NFL that get so much media attention. It's a draw my friend. More so than Roy Who? NFL is a business like anything else.

Of course Chad has been in the league longer! That's precisely what I was saying. MORE experience, accomplishments, etc...

In your first argument you used 40-dash and vert leap as arguments. Sorry to say but Chad has a recorded 4.27 40-dash (an irrelevant way to judge a WR anyways) and a 40 inch vert leap (certainly comparable to Williams).

A poster eluded to this but another issue here is CONSISTENCY. Williams has been hit and miss since he stated. Only 1 season with 1000+ YDS. Only 1 seasons with a Pro Bowl alternate nod. Only 1 stand out season.

Out of space... more to come.

FCB82 said 04/11, 11:45 AM
You put a lot of emphasis on height and vert leap. These are really 2 factors in the success of a WR. Rice was 6'2, Harrison is 6'0, Alworth was 5'11, Swann was 6'0 and these are some of the best WR ever. Height is imporatn--yes--but certainly not the only factor. The numbers on the field are much more important and Johnson has Williams beat there.

You talked about the first 4 seasons. 3 out of 4 season Johnson was 1000+ YDS. Williams, just once. The one season Ocho was NOT 1000+ YDS is because he didn't start every game.

So do you want the guy who's an inch taller with a 2 inch grater vertical leap or the guy with 1000+ YDS consistently for every single year except his first year when he didn't play every game. Theory vs. practice. Johnson has better numbers and that's what you want in a "go to guy" not height, vert leap and maybes.

Look, it ultimately boils down to this:

Chad Johnson--consistent, better numbers, more accomplishments, great NOW and a guaranteed great WR.
Williams--younger, 1 inch taller, marginally better vert leap and COULD be a great WR.

I'll take Johnson with 1000+ YDS guaranteed for my team over vert leap Williams and his less YDS. That's MY go-to guy.