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RHATER is Gone. said 04/13, 04:10 PM
Differences:

CL- Billy Wagner-NYM-36
1B- Carlos Delgado-NYM-35
OF- Raul Ibanez-SEA-35 (over Edmonds)-I'm not sure if I can use him. He's LF, but I'll put him in CF. I'll give up a bit of defense. But if I can't use him, then Wagner and Delgado are the only differences I have.

There are no rules stating there must be more than 2 differences. I know, its more fun, but I really couldn't find that many holes in you lineup.

RHATER is Gone. said 04/14, 04:23 PM
Ok, no Raul is fine. I guessed that, but it doesn't hurt to try, does it?

Hoff vs. Wagner

Hoffman-2.98 ERA, 42 SV, 44 Ks, 15 BB, 57.1 IP
Wagner-2.63 ERA, 34 SV, 80 Ks, 22 BB, 68.1 IP

The reason why Wagner pitched more innings, but got less saves, is because not every one of his wins was a save situation. The Mets' offense is so good, that in blowouts, he's just put in so he can get some more work. The Pads, on the other hand, usually score just enough runs to win, because of an atrocious offense. So almost every time Hoffman pitches, he's in a save situation.

If Wagner was in his place, he would do better, because he gives up less runs when he is pitching, which would cause for more saves. Hoff's age is also a negative factor. He needs more rest than younger players. There have been rumors of him losing the closer job.\

Delgado vs. Hatteberg

So Hatteberg has a good average, but he was only involved in (R or RBI) 97 runs. So most of his hits are useless. Delgado, on the other hand, was involved in 158 runs, so his hits are more productive. And Hatteberg plays in a hitter's paradise, Great American Ballpark, which juices up his numbers too. And I would expect he should drive in more runs in a great offensive team including Brandon Phillips, Adam Dunn, Edwin Encarnacion, etc.

RHATER is Gone. said 04/15, 04:10 PM
"Most of his save situations were 1-2 run games and yet he still found a way to hold on and win them."

Well, duh. The maximum lead in save situation is 3 runs. That's why its called a save. If Wagner comes in to pitch with the Mets up 10-3, and Wagner pitches a shutout 9th, it isn't a save. All of Wagner's save situations were mostly 1-2 run games too.

How did Hoffput up better stats? Wagner beat him in ERA, SO, IP, and K/BB. Saves is not the only important stat for a closer. A good closer may not get enough save opportunities, so despite his talent, he can't use it often.

You can't say for certain what Hatteberg would no in NY. Again, stadiums matter, and Hatteberg greatly benefits from Great American Ballpark. Would he do as well in Shea? Hatteberg is pretty much useless to his team, by what you're saying. He doesn't need to drive runs in, because of who bats ahead of him, AND he doesn't need to score runs, because of who bats behind him. And he had only 38 extra base hits. A single won't drive in runs every time. People batting in the middle of the order need to have power, which Hatteberg does not.