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erwin: Back Again. said 04/12, 09:42 AM
Make an NFL offense using only players who were drafted first overall. You can use active or retired players. No offensive line. Include a starter and a backup for every position.

*Note: for the tight end position, there has only been one drafted first overall. So only use him, you don't need a backup.*

QB: John Elway
Backup: Terry Bradshaw

RB: Earl Campbell
Backup: OJ Simpson

WR: Irving Fryar
Backup: Keyshawn Johnson

TE: Billy Cannon

Good luck!

erwin: Back Again. said 04/12, 10:15 AM
First, for Peyton Manning vs. Bradshaw.

It's gotta be Bradshaw right now. Peyton Manning, at the end of his career, will overtake him, but right now it's Bradshaw. Bradshaw is a hall-of-famer and won 4 Super Bowls. At this stage of his career, Manning has better stats. But I think he won't be able to overtake Bradshaw until he wins at least one more Super Bowl.

Bill Dudley vs. Earl Campbell is good. But here's the knock against Dudley.

He played in the NFL for 9 seasons, yet he only scored 18 touchdowns and ran for just 3057 yards. Campbell passed Dudley's CAREER TOTAL for touchdowns in just one season, 1979. And he passed Dudley's rushing total in 2 seasons.

Now for Trippi vs. OJ.

Let's take the murders out of it, and focus on just their play.

OJ was the first running back ever to rush for more than 2000 yards. He also ran for 61 TDs in his career, compared to Trippi's 23. Trippi also ran for just 3506 yards, which OJ passed in one three-year span.

Fryar should be above Keyshawn. Fryar was a 5-time Pro Bowler and scored 84 career TDs. Fryar has more yards, TDs, and Pro Bowl appearances than Keyshawn Johnson.

erwin: Back Again. said 04/12, 11:22 AM
Bradshaw vs. Manning. I understand Manning does have better stats. That he does. But my question to you is: Manning has all the stats, as did Bradshaw, so why hasn't Manning gotten more out of it?

Partially because Bradshaw was surrounded by better teams. But also partially because Manning has played well all the time when it REALLY counts: the playoffs. Although he had that great run in 2006, other times he has just not been able to lead the Colts to a win when they most need it.

Take this season against the Chargers in the playoffs. Manning put up an outrageous stat line, 402 yards with 3 TDs, but also threw 2 picks, both of them crucial.

With the game on the line, Manning hasn't come through like Bradshaw did. That is really what separates them to me.

For the RBs...I commend you for giving the effort of doing something different, but no offense, I have a huge advantage.

Here is the thing. In Keyshawn's final 4 seasons, he reacked up 3235 yards. But also, he had his worst season of his career in those 4 years, a 600-yard year with Tampa. He declined so quickly. Fryar played so well in all his years. In his final 4 seasons, he had one 1000-yard year. Johnson had 0