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All-Miami offense

erwin: Back Again. said 04/20, 02:03 PM
Make an NFL offense using only Miami (FL) alumni. NO OFFENSIVE LINE.

QB: Jim Kelly

RB: Chuck Foreman
RB: Edgerrin James

WR: Michael Irvin
WR: Andre Johnson
WR: Reggie Wayne

TE: Jeremy Shockey

Steveo16220 is a GGTK said 04/20, 03:09 PM
QB- Jim Kelly

RB-Ottis Anderson
RB- Edgerrin James

WR-Santana Moss
WR-Reggie Wayne
WR-Michael Irvin

TE-Jeremy Shockey

So Otis Anderson a 2 time pro bowler, Offensive ROY, 2 time super bowl champion, 1 time super bowl MVP.
10,275 yds with 86 td...hold the record for the Arizona Cardinals with most rushing yds 7,999

Santana Moss-1 time pro bowler with 2 time All pro team with 5.491 yds and 38 tds....

erwin: Back Again. said 04/20, 03:40 PM
Well, I'll start with Anderson and Foreman.

For one, Foreman was a five-time Pro Bowler compared to Anderson's 2 trips to Hawaii. Foreman also led the NFL in receptions in 1973, with 73 at the time a record for running backs.

Foreman was also rookie of teh year and also played in 3 Super Bowls with the Vikings although they lost all three. Foreman doesn't have as many yards or touchdowns as Anderson for two reasons:

1. Anderson got 1000 something more carries than Foreman. He racked up 500 some more yards. Foreman, at the pace he was going, would have matched that or even passed that.

2. Anderson played 7 MORE SEASONS than Foreman. Foreman, had he played at least 4 or 5 more, would have caught up to Anderson.

Moss vs. Andre Johnson. I personally think Santana Moss is very overrated, but here we go...

Moss

351 REC
5491 YDS
38 TD
7 seasons

Johnson

371 REC
4804 YDS
25 TD
5 seasons

As you can see, Johnson has played 2 less seasons but has caight 20 more passes than Moss already. Johnson is also a 2time Pro Bowler to Moss' 1.

Johnson also led the NFL in catches once, and at the rate he is going will pass Moss in every category in a matter of time.

Steveo16220 is a GGTK said 04/20, 04:09 PM
Basing an argument on the words "If" and "Would" doesn't mean anything...
You don't know what a player "would" have done in his career "if" he kept playing....he could have played one more season and got injured the first play of the game...You don't know what would have happened....you cant predict that

So as it stands you player left the game(football) early...a test of a player is durability as well...if you can only play the game for a little amount of time then it pales in comparison to my player who reached 7 MORE season than yours. Durability

Johnson...saying he will; pass Moss in every category is pretty far fetched seeing Johnson sat half the season out last year with an injury... Need a healthy player to keep up with someone who ALREADY leads you in every category of statistics...Lets not also forget that Moss is sharing the catches with Antwaan Randle El....Before he got to Washington Moss recorded 14oo receiving yds ...Your player has put his numbers up by playing as a 1 man wr team...he was the #1 WO and has only put up 4000 some yds...My WO has shared catches on both teams he has played on with another star wide out...except in 2005 when he caught 14oo yds on 84 rec

erwin: Back Again. said 04/20, 04:25 PM
Johnson did miss half the season with an injury, but up until then he was having his finest statistical season as a pro. He already reached a career high in TDs and yards per catch. Imagine if the kid had played an entire season!

My player NEVER has had a good quarterback as a Texan, yet he is almost always productive. Johnson is steadily gaining on Moss and probably has passed him by now while Moss is steadily declining. Johnson is a pretty big chunk of the Texans' future.

No one will ever know what a certain player WOULD have done. But Foreman was playing well towards the end of his career, while Anderson faded big-time. Just based on that, Foreman would have outproduced Anderson.

Foreman also got a TON less carries than Anderson. Foreman never touched 300 carries in a season. Anderson's high was 331.

The reason Johnsons numbers aren't totally better then Moss' is because Johnson has never had a good quarterback throwing to him. David Carr? Ugh. Matt Schaub? Bust. He's had no one, while Moss had Chad Pennington one of the league's most accurate QBs and Todd Collins, one of the hottest QBs down the stretch.

Johnson has never had another receiver,but he never had aQB

Steveo16220 is a GGTK said 04/20, 04:39 PM
Ok you do realize that he got injured in the 3rd game right? If you consider 3 TDS a career best then your WR has ALOT of room to improve!

YOU CANT SIT THERE AND SAY HE WOULD HAVE OUT PRODUCED HIM! you have no way of telling what would have happened...it is a moot argument because your player quit playing because he couldn't do it any more...if you quit playing that means you have reached your limits...so how can you sit there and say he would have surpassed him when he couldn't even keep playing 7 more years!!!!

Matt Schaub has a 88% qb rating along with a 64% completion rating...how is that not a good qb...i would classify that in the top 3/4 of the league...so what were you saying about not having a qb that is good?

Moss with no other 1 string WR playing with im puts up insane numbers...something your WR should be doing seeing he is a one man show on the Texans...BUT he isn't..he puts up OK numbers that fall somewhere in the middle of the bunch..

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