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Bigalke said 04/26, 12:36 PM
More peacefully than WHOM?

Did they riot in Tampa Bay when they won the Stanley Cup? No...
Do they riot in New England whenever the Patriots or Red Sox win a title? No...
When Pittsburgh defeated Seattle in Super Bowl XL, did the Steel City go up in flames? No...

"Why this happens all the time I have no idea."

I had no idea that this happened all the time...


In reality, most sports championships are a time for a community to celebrate -- and that is exactly what they do. Ticker-tape parades are NOT riots...

New York certainly knows how to celebrate a championship, but do they do it any more peacefully than any of these communities? Hardly...


Formulating the topic sentence so vaguely gives little basis for argument, EXCEPT for the fact that with so little to go on your contention is spurious at best. New York is no perfect place, and the NYPD aren't saints who have all the answers in controlling people... just ask Abner Louima or Ousmane Zongo or Amadou Diallo...

New York may celebrate its sports titles peacefully... but more peacefully than WHOM, YDT8523?

Bigalke said 04/26, 07:51 PM
Baton Rouge lost its mind when LSU won the title? Don't recall that...
What about Lawrence, Kansas? Oh wait, they didn't either...
Perhaps it was Corvallis, Oregon? Nope...
Or was it Tallahassee when the Gators went back-to-back in basketball with a football title sandwiched in between?

The problem here, YDT, is that you cannot offer up even one concrete instance where substantial rioting occurred in the past decade. Not in the United States, at least... and I assume you are limiting jurisdiction to domestic sporting events. Since you aren't, I will declare it so right now...

There will always be unsavory elements who celebrate titles nefariously -- even in New York. But we haven't seen full-scale rioting following a title in years. This isn't the three-peat Chicago Bulls inciting violence in Chicago... there hasn't been anything like the Richard Riot in ages...

You are simply being too vague here, YDT... and until you give some actual examples of rioting, there's nothing but bluster to counter...

Bigalke said 04/27, 05:18 AM
"How about teams loses these championship games."

This is COMPLETELY off topic, YDT... the throwdown, as posted by YOU, is:


"New York celebrates winning a champioship more peacefully."


The key phrase here is WINNING... those cities with teams who lose in the finals have no bearing on the throwdown...


Further, you list this nugget:

"And also in 1994 after the New York Rangers beat the Vancouver Canucks In Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final to win the Cup, there were riots in Vancouver."

First, this falls under the LOSING side... as everyone knows, it was Mark Messier, Brian Leetch, Mike Richter & crew, under the reins of Mike Keenan, who won the Rangers first Cup in 54 years...

Second, this falls out of jurisdiction. As I listed in the second argument:

"and I assume you are limiting jurisdiction to domestic sporting events. Since you aren't, I will declare it so right now..."

... we are limiting this throwdown to the United States. You failed to refute this point... so anything that happened in Vancouver or Montreal is irrelevant in the terms of the argument.


New York has its problems, and rioting is not as prevalent as you wish to assert...