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  • April 30, 2008 10:32 PM ET

TD Lovers Round II: Gu3 vs. Hemo: All Time Red Sox Roster

Gu3 (327-312-54) vs thehemogoblin- Gone (81-25-7)
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Based on stats as red sock

C- Carlton Fisk
1B- Jimmie Foxx
2B- Bobby Doerr
SS- Nomar Garciaparra
3B- Wade Boggs
OF- Ted Williams
OF- Carl Yastrzemski
OF- Jim Rice
DH- (pure DHs)- David Ortiz

SP-Roger Clemens
SP- Cy Young
SP- Joe Wood
SP- Pedro Martinez
SP- Luis Tiant

(SP were in no order)

CP- Jonathan Papelbon (will explain)


First, put Manny Ramirez in place of Jim Rice.

Then replace Luis Tiant with Babe Ruth, and Jonathan Papelbon with... wait, as ludicrous as it sounds, Jonathan Papelbon.

Well...

Should be interesting.


Manny Ramirez vs Jim Rice

Rice
2452 hits
373 2Bs
79 3Bs
382 HRs
1451 RBIs
.298 BA

Manny
1159 hits
243 2Bs
7 3Bs
260 HRs
820 RBIs
.314 BA

All that manny has is a slightly better BA


Well, Guthrie, here's the deal.

Manny's played 7 1/2 seasons in Boston, to Rice's 16, so basically double Ramirez's statistics for a rough estimate.

Then throw in the fact that Ramirez has won more Silver Sluggers (6) than Rice (2) in 1/2 the time.

Add on top the fact that Ramirez has made an All-Star game in each season in Boston and that Rice only made eight in his sixteen years, and I win that argument by a longshot.

In Ruth's 5 full seasons as a pitcher in Boston, his ERA was never higher than 2.97. He had an 89-46 record in 1190 1/3 innings pitched (over a five year span, no less), appearing in 158 games.

He had a legendary season in 1917. He appeared in 41 games, started 38 of those, and completed 35 of them. That's right. 35 complete games in one season. He had a WHIP of 1.08, an ERA of 2.01 and did this pitching 326 1/3 innings.



NOTE TO VOTERS: Guthrie and I are using achievements in BOSTON ONLY.


Forfeited Turn


Oh, best thing about using Babe Ruth as a pitcher? You get to DH for someone else! Or, in this case, just not use the DH at all. Interesting thought? I think so. I'd sure like to see Luis Tiant go up there and smack a bunch of home runs.

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May 1, 2008  12:52 AM ET
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Good luck Guthrie.

May 1, 2008  07:26 AM ET
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Same to you Hemo

May 1, 2008  07:39 AM ET
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Manny certainly needs to be on this list. But I'm surprised you both took Paps over Dennis Eckersley.

No Lefty Grove, Tris Speaker, or Luis Aparicio?

I'll wait for arguments.

May 1, 2008  09:19 AM ET
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I would for Porkins but ill have to wit since hes not in the td

May 1, 2008  09:46 AM ET
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no trot nixon?

May 1, 2008  09:49 AM ET
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"But I'm surprised you both took Paps over Dennis Eckersley"

Ditto. Waiting for arguments before voting.

May 1, 2008  11:31 AM ET
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Here's the thing. I took as many players as I could based on their accomplishments WITH the Red Sox.

May 2, 2008  09:12 PM ET
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Vote to the right. Better arguments.

 
May 2, 2008  11:37 PM ET
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ouch

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