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It will NOT take the Pittsburgh Penguins 7 games to beat the Philadelphia Flyers in the NHL's Eastern Conference Finals.

Cassidy's House's 549 Posse said 05/09, 02:32 PM
The Pittsburgh Penguins have won 8 out of 9 playoff games for a reason: they are the dominant Eastern Conference team and the Flyers have overachieved in beating two higher seeds.

The Flyers have beaten the Caps and the Habs. Nice. Those teams were both one dimensional(Capitals) and extremely young without a dominant scorer(Canadiens).

Are you telling me they are going to continue to rise up beyond all expectations and beyond being the WORST team in the NHL just last season? I say no. Go with the hottest, best, and deepest team who wiped the Senators and Rangers up with barely a single slice of Charmin.

Should I go on? Should I rant about statistics? About how there is no Sidney Crosby, or Malkin, or Hossa on the Flyers? Should I tell you their goaltender in Brion has never faced anything close to the Penguins offensive onslaught in a 7 game series in his life? No I should not. Any hockey fan knows the Flyers are beyond the underdog in this series and they dont have the playmakers that the Penguins do to compensate and overcome their underdog status.

Penguins win this series either in 4 or 6 games. Whatever it takes. Home ice advantage matters big time here.

Moondizzle is Dark Helmet said 05/09, 02:52 PM
There is no doubt that the Pittsburgh Penguins are on a major roll. But if we are going to give them credit, like they are bound to be champs, we're supposed to detract from the Flyers because of luck? Or a fluke?

Yes - they knocked off 2 higher seeds. Overachieving is in the eye of the beholder. This team believes. And it WINS.

I don't know if you can call the Caps one-dimensional because 'they just have Ovechkin'. He and his 65 goals are multi-dimensional and that team flew into the playoffs. The Canadiens were the #1 seed. Its as if you made them garbage overnight.

Throw me stats all you want. We're supposed to believe they CAN'T rise up beyond expectations? Like they will run out of gas? What case study has been performed, PRE-SERIES, that determines a series can not go to 7 games because one team had that much better a regular season.

Perhaps the Giants had no chance to win almost a dozen in a row on the road in the playoffs. Perhaps the Marlins couldn't win a World Series as the wildcard, or the Rockies couldn't whitewash the NL in the playoffs last year. Maybe the Red Sox could never come back 3-0 against the curse.

They will fight to the finish.

Cassidy's House's 549 Posse said 05/09, 03:07 PM
As if the Flyers had a punchers chance to take this series to the final bell(7 games), now were hear their best defenseman(their only chance at stretching this series was to play great defense and win low scoring games) is out indefinately with blood clots in his left foot. See story here:

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=409624

So what we had was an underdog with a pipedream of taking this series 7 long without their key guy on defense to keep Crosby, Malkin, and Hossa in check. Seems like you guys just got the ultimate hand tied behind your back when you couldnt even afford it in the first place.

Winning and believing eventually run into brick walls that is better known in the sports world as BETTER TALENT. The Penguins have it and dont need to rely on believing because they and hockey fans KNOW it.

The Canadiens were the 1 seed because they had the best team without any superstars so they happen to win the most regular season Eastern Conference games. However, come playoff time, the SUPERSTARS are what are the difference in winning and losing and we saw the "mighty" #1 seed Montreal have to go 7 games just to get past the 8 seed Bruins.

Moondizzle is Dark Helmet said 05/09, 03:38 PM
Yes, tragically, their best defenseman is out. This year Sidney Crosby was out and some guy named Malkin took over and ended up a finalist for the Hart. Where did that team end up?

Moreover, the team leading the league in playoff scoring (FLYERS) was hoping all along for a low-scoring affair, as you said. Thats interesting. And a bit contradictory.

So they run into a talented squad. That eliminates every undercard to this series, such as the in-state rivalry, the long absence of a winner shared by both teams, the Flyers knocking off higher seeds and Crosby solidifying his place in the game - all of that. This series is over before it begins in your book. Everything they have done so far means zilch, despite the cases I pointed out to you in my first argument (Giants, Marlins, Rockies, Red Sox).

"The Canadiens were the 1 seed because they had the best team without any superstars so they happen to win the most regular season Eastern Conference games." - Um.....what? Huh? Ok..they had no superstars, 'happened' to win the most games, and...well you lost me.

The Flyers have overcome much adversity. But you say its just going to stop. I say they go on, and lose in game 7.

Cassidy's House's 549 Posse said 05/10, 01:17 PM
Well now, lets see......if anybody wants to dream the Flyers are going to win three out of the next six games, be my guest. I don't need to dream. I got a 1-0 series lead and the best team this side of Detroit on my side.

Moondizzle is Dark Helmet said 05/10, 02:01 PM
Arguments in throwdowns should be independent of sporting results from any game. Thats just silly. If that is your 3rd argument, then I pity you, whether I win or lose this throwdown.

The Flyers had things working last night, and ended up handing over the momentum of the game with unforced turnovers and bad puck management. When you make sloppy mistakes, guys like Malkin and Crosby will kill you, of course.

I guess you forgot that the Flyers have lost ALL THREE game 1's they have had so far, and gone on to win 2 of the series. Hence the results of last night's game are inconsequential.

The point of this throwdown is not to argue whether the Flyers can WIN this series or not. The object is to rebuff the notion that you can PREDICT a series can NOT go 7 games before it even started, and then enter a 3rd argument based upon the results of ONE game. That in and of itself seems precarious, as you seemingly waited for that game to happen.

The Flyers have their backs against the wall, if you consider 1 game down against the wall. And they have bounced back twice.

If Biron can get settled and they eliminate needless mistakes, this series is far from over.

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It will NOT take the Pittsburgh Penguins 7 games to beat the Philadelphia Flyers in the NHL's Eastern Conference Finals.

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