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Timmy Chang was a turnover machine.

He's the NCAA's all-time leader in INTs thrown.

End. Of. Story.

I think brennan is good but is a little undersized but i think could play at the next level

Brett10, did you NOT notice what I JUST said about Chang?

He's the all-time passing leader yes, but A) he's NOT the all-time Passing TD leader and B) he's the all-time INTs thrown leader.

It's not just a system.

well bio1590, throwin int's was changs fault, he did it by himself, its not like hawaii's system made him throw picks

No, but most people bring up Timmy Chang's failure when talking about Hawaii's "system".

Brennan's crazy TD:INT ratio (4.8:1) is amazing. Only throwing 12 INTs when you attempt 559 Passes.

Precisely.

Hawaii's system DOES NOT help QBs.

Chang threw 33 INTs in two years, compared to 67 TDs.

That's hardly 2:1, and is horrible for a college QB.

Hell, he couldn't even complete 60% of his passes or throw for more than 4250 yards ON MORE ATTEMPTS.

Right on Bio1590.
Timmy Chang threw a lot of INT's, but Brennan makes the right choices and make all of his receivers look good, even his RB.

Where is Colt Brennan?
About to win the Heisman, that's where! (j/k, McFadden will probably win it, but Brennan is a close second)

Brennan is a better QB than Chang was.

Think David Klingler, gaudy stats, but a failure in NFL. It happens over and over... Brennan will fail in the NFL also.

Whoo billy, season tickets for the Colts!? Brennan not to place is awfully tempting. They probably won't vote him in b/c of Timmy Chang's history. Let's see, we got Booty, Slaton, White, Mcfadden, McCoy (maybe, too young still to get voted on), Ainge, Johnson (Ian), Brohm, and I believe that's it for the forseeable candidates. I'd go with Brennan to place. We'll see man, we'll see.

Brennan is a throwing QB and Robinson now plays RB in the NFL. Big passing stats will get votes.

Hey man, Washington ain't nothing to mess with! They, Washington, actually will be better this year, but they're not USC or anything.
But yeah, the cupcake schedule does hurt heisman hopes a lot. The only way he can be considered is if they go undefeated and sneak into the BCS championship, but they'd have to have sloppy seconds on the sneaking b/c TCU would be the first one to sneak in, and a one loss SEC would go anyways b/c the title game from last season is still fresh in everyone's mind.

Brennan will flop in the NFL, every big name QB that has come out of a mid major, that runs that type of offense has. Klingler, Andre Ware (heisman winner), and Ty Detmer (heisman winner). Flop, Flop, Flop. College Run and Shoot = NFL flop. Brennan is projected as a late 2nd to early 3rd round pick. That will probably slide into 4th or 5th when the draft actually happens. No team is gonna gamble on a QB from that system being successful....

Brenna might not even get to the NFL. Timmy Chnag wasn't drafted and signed as a free agent with the Eagles. He also ended up getting signed by the Lions and Cardinals at some point, too. No idea if he still in the league or not.

Timmy's in Canada!

http://www.ticats.ca/index.php?module=roster&func=display&am p;ros_id=1082

And uh, mikesteelnation. . .Brennan's the uh. . .#2 QB going into this year and the draft. . .might be #1 if Brohm sucks *** this year.

I don't see why they call it the run and shoot anyways. They should call it the shoot and shoot (with a run every now and then), but I guess that's not as catchy.

Hawaii actually ran the ball more than you think <_<

and I thought they were a run and gun?

Nah, I'm pretty sure they're run and shoot.

They did run more than I thought: ~300 run attempts vs. 444 pass attempts. The run is a vital part of that offense; the pass is just what opens it up.