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the dude didn't even make an argument and he has a vote? ****.

top to me = top 3.

okay let's see if i can get another argument in here.

the Phillies are weak at the corners this year. Howard hasn't produced offensively and is still a liability on defense. Helton's OBP is 47 points higher than Howard's this year and is creating more than a run more per 27 outs than Howard his. also, Helton obviously MUCH better on defense. Delgado is just having one of the worst years of his life and Helton is killllling him. however, Delgado has been good on defense this year, with only 3 errors and a .995 FP. as for David Wright, he's been better offensively than Atkins (as expected) however, Atkins has 4 less errors and a FP that is 12 points higher than Wright's (.966-.954).

also, you missed my point. 1-1, the Rockies won't matchup well but as a team, a whole infield, they definitely hold up against just about any other team. they have a solid fielder at every position where as the Mets are relatively weak on right side and the Phillies are weak at the corners.

How are the Phillies weak at the cornes with the MVP at 1b!!!!! idiot

this year, Ryan Howard has been lackluster. at defense, Howard is also a liability. if he were in the AL, he'd be a DH.

also, did you vote for yourself?

yes why?

just curious, i don't vote for myself. one day, that's gonna bite me in the **** and i'll lose by one, haha.

woah, someone just changed a vote from him to me. thanks whoever it was! haha.

and it went back to 6-5. nevermind.

god i'm bored, haha.

Im not a Brewers fan, but their infield is much better than the Rockies. They have their future infield set for a decade to come, whereas the Rockies are going to lose Helton and Matsui to age.

Prince Fielder leads the NL in HR's, and shortstop J.J Hardy isnt far behind. Rickie Weeks has been a straight up beast as Sports commentaters are amazed with his upside and promise. And their new corner infielder, Braun, is supposed to become of the best hitters of this new generation. He is on pace for a 25+ Hr, 90 RBI, .300 AVG as a rookie for a one-year basis.

Here is what their infield is on pace to end up with offensively, not to mention they have one of the most athletic tandems as 2B/SS in the MLB.

Fielder: 75 HR, 180 RBI, 290 BA
Hardy: 50 HR, 150 RBI, 285 BA
Braun: 25 HR, 90 RBI, 305 BA
Weeks: 15 HR, 60 RBI, 250 BA, 25 SB

I know Fielder isnt going to end up with 75 HRs, but were a third through the season, and this infield has been consistent, so you know they are legit to say the least

too bad there's more to baseball than just offense.

Fielder--8 errors, .986 FP
Hardy--8 errors, .970 FP
Braun--5 errors, .906 FP
Weeks--3 errors, .986 FP.

Helton--2 errors, .997 FP
Tulowitzki--5 errors, .985 FP
Atkins--5 errors, .966 FP (Atkins has over 300 more IP than Braun here and just as many errors)
Matsui--0 errors 1.000 FP

24 errors total for Milwaukee, 12 for Colorado.

it looks like it doesnt matter because the brewers r in 1rst and rockies are in 4th

Woah I never knew you could change votes...

the Rockies are also first in fielding percentage (and fewest errors) while the Brewers are in 21st for FP and 16th in errors.

oh those ranks are ML ranks, by the way, not just NL, sorry. in the NL, the Rockies are obviously still first in both stats and the Brewers are 8th in FP and 9th in errors.

there's more than one dimension to the game, people. the Rockies have good hitting (hey, Matt Holliday) and obviously have wonderful fielding. if they just had consistent pitching, which looks like it may be coming around, they'd make a serious push for the NL West.

ha, this ended in a tie because i didn't vote for myself. if i did, i would've won.