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Battle of the QB Elway vs Favre ( Only take if you are goanna argue)

Footballfan4 said 05/18, 08:42 PM
My Pick Brett Favre

Before i start my argument let me say i already know yours.

Your main argument will be brett Favre has more INT and 1 less ring.

Alright now that tht is out of the way lets look at regular season stats.

Brett Favre
61,655 passing yards
61.4 completion%
442 TD(5.0 TD%)
288 int(3.3 INT%)
85.7 QB Rating

John Elway
51,475 Passing yards
56.9 completion%
300 TD(4.1 TD%)
226 INT(3.0 INT%)
79.9 QB rating

Okay so lets take a look at this Brett Favre wins in Yards,Touchdowns,completion percent and QB rating I mean By the looks of it Favre is the better QB

Now Lets take a look at the super bowls Elway has 2 Favre has 1.

Did John Elway win those super Bowls?

He definatly didnt win the first one for his team that honor goes to Terrel Davis.

Sure Elway helpped win them but the thing is when you have the most dangerous runningback in footbll at the time it will take a lot of pressure of your QB

Allright I will Argue post season next

Goodluck

Bigdleech: 27=better than 36! said 05/18, 09:31 PM
Favre is one of the greats, but he is not on Elway's level.

So everyone knows that Favre holds all the records. It really isn't that big of a deal. Let's look at how he achieved those records:

Brett Favre held on too long. You can argue that Favre only played one more year, but his body matured at a completely different rate. Favre's massive starting streak really did take a toll on him. He may have had an excellent year this year, but that was because of great receivers, a great young line and running back, and a top notch defense.

Elway is like a fine wine. He only got better with age. After age 31, his lowest rating was 85.7. Favre has been below that plateau three times since that age. In fact, Elway's best seasons were at the end of his career.

Favre had a lot more passes in his day. The fact that he never had a Terrell Davis with him in the backfield means that he didn't miss out on hundreds of pass attempts that Elway did.

Favre didn't win the Super Bowl for the Packers either. That belongs to a dominant defense and Desmond Howard.

Another Elway advantage was that he was versatile. The man could run the ball, finishing his career with 3407 yards and 33 tds.

Footballfan4 said 05/18, 09:53 PM
Alright here is what i have to say

How can you say Favre had great recievers a great offensive line and a great runningback. The players on his team were average at best If anything it was Favre that made them better.

Anyway The Job of a QB isint to run the ball but to pass it which Favre did better MUCH better But Favre was no slouh in the run though rushing for 1,786 yards and 13 TD not as good as Elway but not Horrible.

But how can you say that Brett Favre didint win that superbowl that is just abssurd. Favre had 21 completions for 246 yards with 2 TD no INT and had a rushind TD to go along with it. So favre had 18 of the 35 Points which is more then 50% of them. If you ask me he had alot to do with the victory of the superbowl.

Lets Compare there stats of there last two super Bowls

Favre
502 yards
5 TD
1 INT

Elway
459 Yards
1 TD
2 Picks

I mean seriously Favre did more In his last to games in the Superbowl then Elway could of prayed for.

So Favre Helpped His team win the Superbowl Way more then Elway did.

I mean the Superbowl Favre lost to Elway Favre had 3 TD and 1 pick to Elways HMMM 0 TD and 1 INT.

OUT OF ROOM

Bigdleech: 27=better than 36! said 05/18, 10:24 PM
You really can't compare the two using their final two Super Bowl games. So Favre was better in those two appearances than Elway was in his. Big deal.

A very underrated stat for quarterbacks that doesn't get noticed a lot is yards per attempt. Elway's is 7.1, while Favre's is 7.0. That may not be a difference, but that means that Elway would have likely finished with more yards given the same amount of attempts. He actually averaged one yard more per completion than Favre did over his career.

Favre's team this season was very much above average. The defense definately carried the team some of the time. He had one of the best receiving corps in the NFL, plus the extremely underrated Donald Lee at tight end.

The defense was really the part of the team that carried the Packers in Favre's prime. Elway didn't always have Davis with him. He took the Broncos to the Super Bowl three times before Davis got there, so he didn't have a great player helping to carry the team. Reggie White, while on the opposite side of the ball, was really the player that carried the Packers after he arrived there from Philly. Elway only ever had TD for like four seasons, so he did a lot on his own.

Footballfan4 said 05/18, 10:45 PM
Alright im not goanna get into deep detail about who there whole team was or anything like that then i aleady have.

But Lets Judge the Two on what they did and not on what they could of done or should of done.

Brett Favre has over 100 More touchdowns has a MUCH higher completion rating and has 3 NFL MVP'S which is an NFL record.

Now yes Favre had more INT but Favre had a 5.0 Td% to Elways 4.1 which is a Huge difference while Favre had a 3.3INT% to Elways 3.0INT% Which isint that much at all compared to the TD percent.

How do you say Reggie White carried that packers team Favre has never had a season Under 3,000 yards(Besides his rookie year) while Elway has had 3.

id White carry that team when Favre had his 5 consecutive seasons of 30 TD or more I am sure he contributed But 30 Plus TD for 5 straight seasons Elway hasnt even had a season of 30 plus passing TDs.

Alright Elway was a great QB no doubt about it But when a QB has more Yards TD a better Completion% more MVP'S more 3,000 Yard seasons just as many pro bowls more all pros.It usually means You are a better QB

Good TD and Good Luck

Bigdleech: 27=better than 36! said 05/18, 11:16 PM
Stats aren't everything. Warren Moon(who was good, no doubt) and Vinny Testeverde had more passing yards than Montana. And Montana had Jerry Rice. Does that make them better than Montana? Hell no. They both had more touchdowns than him. Stats mean very little.

My point on Reggie White was that he played for many years with another hall of fame player. John Elway never had that. TD may have made it without the injury problems, but we will never know.

Brett Favre has inflated stats. The man is a gunslinger, meaning that he should have more yards and touchdowns than other people. John Elway was never that type of quarterback, but he still had amazing passing numbers.

We all know that the MVP is a popularity contest anyway, as is being named and All-Pro or Pro Bowler. Favre has people all over his knob, and there have been plenty of people there for a long time. Elway was never as popular. I personally called him Ole' Horseteeth. Popularity is a huge part of Brett Favre mania. That is why some people are willing to call him the greatest ever.

As I have shown, numbers do not always mean that you are a better quarterback.

Good luck to you as well.

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This should be good. Good luck to both.

Hyped78 | 05/18/08, 08:50 PM

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