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Guru welcomes back Deuce!!!!! said 05/21, 02:22 PM
First off, I was challenged to this throwdown topic so it would be nice if people didnt accuse me & vote against me for being a homer.

The Advisor made a statment in another TD about Saints/TB winning the division, I was not a participant in that certain TD. His statment:

"Actually neither team will win that divsion, that honor will go to the Panthers. If anyone disagrees we can throwdown when this throwdown is over"

Now I would be the first to admit that the Saints played horribly last year. After the injury to Deuce, they played like a chicken with its head cut off. They were inconsistant last year due to a lack of running game. WIth the return of Deuce, who has no setbacks in his rehab, the emergance of Thomas & Bush bulking up & changing his style of running, I am feeling confident with the running game & offense.

Another BIG part of the Saints improvement this year is to their horrid defense. Additions of J. Vilma, B. Mcrary, R. Gay, top picks S Ellis & T. Porter, the defense has improved dramatically. Though I would expect Porter to make a difference right away, Ellis is poise to make instant noise.

My choice is obvious. Your choice? 3rd place in the division

Guru welcomes back Deuce!!!!! said 05/21, 05:28 PM
Falcons, though it seems the NFC Souths trend the past few years is Worse to First, will not be in contention.

"I mean the Saints didn't make a splash in the draft"

What?!?! Picking up highly regarded Sedrick Ellis is not making a splash? Filling up their needs on the defensive side of the ball is not a good draft?

All i see in your argument is your opinions and NO facts. You have every right to your opinion but the bottom line is, you have nothing to support them. Lets run down the positions correctly....

QB: Saints - Brees is barely better then Delhomme you say? lol. Its not even CLOSE.

RB: Saints - Deuce/Bush/Stecker combination is worlds apart from Willaims & Stewart, who hasnt proven ANYTHING yet. "Potential" dont mean jack.

WR: Lets compare both teams 2 top options. Smith & Muhammed combined for 127 Rec 1,572 yards 10 TDs. Colston & Patten? 152 Rec 1,994 yards 14 TDs. Smiths a great reciever but he is slowing down. Colston today, is better then Smith. Face the facts.

DL: Maybe a Tie? lol. Instead of admitting that your line is weaker, you call it a tie lol. C. Grant (pending trial lol), W. Smith, B. Mcrary, H. Thomas & S. Ellis wins by a landslide

Guru welcomes back Deuce!!!!! said 05/22, 01:26 PM
I'll finish my position comparsion first & tackle your 2nd argument.

OL: Saints. Giving up 16 total Sacks to opposing defenses does not impress you? With a lack of running game last year, everyone & their momma knew the Saints were gonna pass. The OL kept the pass rush defense at bay & gave Brees ample amount of time in the pocket. Now I understand your excitment with the drafting of Otah, but he hasnt played 1 down yet. As i stated above, potential dont mean shiz to me. As for Geoff Schwartz, he was 10 picks away from being MR IRRELEVANT.

LB/CB: Panthers. I cannot deny these 2 positions are our weakest.

Safeties: Saints. Harper & Bullocks are worlds apart from ALL your safeties.

Harper/Bullocks
159 tackles, 5 Sacks, 4 Force fumbles, 5 ints & 16 pass defenses.

All 4 Panthers safeties:
164 tackles, 0 sacks, 9 FF, 1 int & 5 PD.

Colston vs Smith:
I stand by my words, Colston RIGHT NOW is better then the aging Smith. I dont wanna hear any excuses regarding the QBs cuz Roddy White had Joey, Redman & Leftwich throwing to him last year & STILL posted better numbers then Smith.

Jake is NOT EVEN CLOSE to the level of Brees. Wanna tackle that topic in our next TD?