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0x NBA/NFL Champion said 05/26, 12:20 PM
Assuming he does not get hurt, I think he will last at least 10, and probably more.

Five weeks is a very short time for a QB, and especially if you are planning on putting a rookie in, like you said with Booty. The Vikings are a legitimate playoff threat, and they have stated that Jackson is their guy. Yes, Jackson hasn't played great, but he is improving, and he still has yet to play with a legitimate receiver. If you want to call a rookie and a veteran slot good receivers, fine. But now that Jackson has a guy like Berrian to take some heat and with Rice now having experienced the NFL, he will be better.

Completion %? Yes, he didn't do great with it, but there were five guys who had worse. Lemon and Brodie Croyle don't really factor in, but here are the three others:

Derek Anderson
Eli Manning
Trent Edwards

We have a rookie QB who managed to lead his team back into the playoff race, a Pro Bowl QB who had a fantastic year, and the QB who won the Super Bowl. He threw less INT's than both Manning and Anderson, and remember, he still has played just 2 years, give him time.

Booty is a proven passer in COLLEGE. The NFL is much different, so don't expect him to come in and dominate.

0x NBA/NFL Champion said 05/26, 01:04 PM
Really? Not a glimmer of hope? Jackson has an 8-4 career record. I would say that is not too shabby. The Vikings were in the thick of the playoff race last year, and they improved greatly. Why won't they be in the playoff race this year?

Booty is a rookie QB, and we all know that rookie QB's can't just come into the
NFL and play great. Look at the last QB's to come out of USC and how they did as rookies. Matt Leinart had just 11 TD's, 12 INT's, 56.8 CPT %, 74.0 QB rating.
Carson Palmer did not even play. If Booty was to come in and play right away, chances are that he won't have the success that you think he will.

Top notch competition?

Idaho (0-8, 1-11)
Washinton State (3-6, 5-7)
Washington (2-7, 4-9)
Arizona (4-5, 5-7)

That doesn't even have Stanford, which they LOST to, although Booty did not play. Half of the Pac10 was sub-.500! How is that top-notch competition? Now imagine him playing:

Green Bay x2
Indianapolis
Tennessee
NY Giants
Tampa Bay
Jacksonville
New Orleans

You can bet he won't have nearly the success against good NFL teams that he had in college against the Pac10.

Jackson is in his 3rd year, when most guys break out. He finally has some good WR's, he'll be ok

0x NBA/NFL Champion said 05/26, 01:44 PM
Yes, USC played both good teams, and bad. You said that it was "top notch", so I merely showed that some were not close to top notch at all.

You said that since he played in a pro style offense, he would be ready for success in the NFL. I showed the two most recent QB's who played in that offense, and the success that they had as rookies, which wasn't much. The are all QB's from the same school, same offense. I think that makes some sense.

With Jackson at QB, they went 7-4. With Holcomb and Bollinger, they went 1-3. So Jackson accounted for just 50% of losses, but 87.5% of wins. In just his second season, I think those are decent numbers.

"He had good receivers last season he just couldn't find them."

Really? Good receivers? I would not call a rookie 2nd round pick, a guy known more for dropping the ball than catching it, and a guy who has 5 career TD's, good receivers. If you think so, that is fine. But I sure don't.

Now, the Vikings have a decent receiving core. Bernard Berrian is not as good as the money he got, but he is a very respectable receiver, and he if far better than Williamson. Rice will be improved in his second season. Jackson now has tools, he will be improved.