GeorgiaFan1000 said 05/27, 07:45 PM
place these attributtes in order of what u look for in a qb
picks first argue later
Leadership
throw accuracy
throw power
awareness
toughness
scrambling ability
my order
1. leader ship
2. throw accuracy
3. awarness
4. throw power
5. toughness
6. scrambling abilty
good luck
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! said 05/27, 07:49 PM
Alrighty then.
1. Leadership
2. Awareness
3. Throwing accuracy
4. Toughness
5. Throwing Power
6. Scrambling Ability
GeorgiaFan1000 said 05/27, 08:13 PM
We both agree on leader ship,
Next throw accuracy-awareness come on a quarter back has to be consistanly accurate a bit off target and with todays DBs the football will be snatched right out of the air, secondly awarness is important but not as crucial as accuracy, that is why it third not second, next throw power, the ball has to have enough zip to make to the reciever where you intend the ball to go a softly throw ball can easily be knocked down or worse picked off, so in conclusion would you rather have a Qb who throws a consistantly accurate ball with some zip, or a Qb that knows where defenders are but can't get the ball exactly where he wants it to go that is softly thrown and because of that throws a pick any way?
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! said 05/27, 08:45 PM
In my opinion, awareness partially encompasses accuracy, and then. Awareness is more than just being able to avoid a sack. It is reading defenses, knowing which of your receivers are open and which are not, being able to tell what both your own receivers and the opposing defenders are going to do and where they're going to go. I find that more important than if my QB is 5% more accurate.
"secondly awarness is important but not as crucial as accuracy, that is why it third not second"
That's neither an explanation, nor a reason. Expand on that, please? An accurate QB is pretty useless when he doesn't even know where to throw it to.
Toughness should be higher than 5th, in my opinion. How good can your QB be if he's only on the field half the time? There have been many QBs with good potential that have been hit bad by injuries and lack of toughness. Chad Pennington, Marc Bulger, even Jake Delhomme as of late...alternatively, QBs like Favre, Marino, Elway and Unitas are renowned for their toughness.
GeorgiaFan1000 said 05/28, 02:04 PM
The comment "Awareness is more than just being able to avoid a sack. It is reading defenses, knowing which of your receivers are open and which are not, being able to tell what both your own receivers and the opposing defenders are going to do and where they're going to go" was clearly satated in my arguement I understand what it is, though my comment is admitingly lacking the depth you put, I am complete opposite from u i would rather a Qb to be 5% more accurate than 5% more aware, the comment i made earlier "secondly awarness is important but not as crucial as accuracy, that is why it third not second"
was not mant to be a reason or explanation, It was meant to conclude my first reason, not thinking i put secondly before it
finally ur comment
"Toughness should be higher than 5th, in my opinion. How good can your QB be if he's only on the field half the time? There have been many QBs with good potential that have been hit bad by injuries and lack of toughness. Pennington, Bulger, even Delhomme" These qbs are also lacking what? arm strength"alternatively, QBs like Favre, Marino, Elway and Unitas are renowned for their toughness." what r they known for most arm strength
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! said 05/28, 05:26 PM
You're right, your explanation of awareness had much less depth as mine...which is why I explained it further. Also, just to let you know, unlike accuracy there is no even halfway decent way to measure awareness. I realize that accuracy is more than completion %, but how does one become 5% more aware, I ask?
"what r they known for most arm strength"
I'd actually say Favre is more well known for durability, as well as Unitas, who relied more on his durability, intangibles and accuracy than his throwing power.
Want to know who had a great arm? Steve Bartkowski. The man had a rocket. Nevertheless, in his 12 years, he played more than ten games in just 7 of those seasons. Heck yet another example is Doug Williams, who had a power arm yet only played more than ten games just 4 of his 9 seasons. Durability is in my opinion without a doubt more important than arm strength.
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i just missed getting it and i was going to put it in the same exact order that LIFER put it in. i shoulda took it before i thought about it :p
Vince3in4yrs | 05/27/08, 07:51 PM
Report Offensive CommentArm Strength is of Much higher importance in today's game. The Arena Football League is full of accurate QB's, but if you don't have arm strength today, the DB's and LB's will eat you up. The game is too fast now for weak arms.
Tobias gave it less importance than Bulldog Lover, so my vote goes to the GA.
Jose_Canseco | 05/27/08, 07:58 PM
Report Offensive Commenttoughness is a key attribute in a QB he cant be a pansy and expect to be succesful he has to be able to take a hit
lakers#1 says ROLL TIDE! | 05/27/08, 08:06 PM
Report Offensive CommentToughness should be top three Think about it you cant have a good QB if he isint on the field
Footballfan4 | 05/27/08, 08:07 PM
Report Offensive Commentim voting right on this one. that's pretty much what my order would be.
"Cleveland" | 05/27/08, 08:37 PM
Report Offensive CommentCleveland Wait for arguments b4 you vote even though Lifer proly will have the better argument atlest have the courtesy to wait
Footballfan4 | 05/27/08, 08:40 PM
Report Offensive Comment"In my opinion, awareness partially encompasses accuracy"
There ya go. I might move toughness up one notch, but of the lists presented I'm leaning right.
LoveItHateIt | 05/27/08, 09:58 PM
Report Offensive CommentScrambling is greater than throwing power- Scrambling doesn't mean pure speed, it means avoiding defensive attacks in the pocket
TorFan | 05/27/08, 10:25 PM
Report Offensive CommentIf scrambling or even mobility was important, guys like Marino, Peyton, and Kurt Warner would have never have won MVP's in the NFL. Those guys are statues in the pocket. The biggest statue ever, Drew Bledsoe, even had some very good years as a QB.
Scrambling is definitely last, unless you are a sub par passer like Vick was.
Jose_Canseco | 05/27/08, 10:43 PM
Report Offensive Commentsorry it took so long i had to study 4 math exams
GeorgiaFan1000 | 05/28/08, 02:12 PM
Report Offensive Commentdoug williams was descriminated because he was black, that was why he only played for a few years
GeorgiaFan1000 | 05/28/08, 05:30 PM
Report Offensive CommentI'm talking durability during the years he did play.
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! | 05/28/08, 05:37 PM
Report Offensive CommentI could also talk about even more. Jeff George comes to mind for a strong arm and little durability.
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! | 05/28/08, 05:38 PM
Report Offensive Commentsince when was durability on the list? half of your final argument doen't even pertain to the TD
GeorgiaFan1000 | 05/28/08, 05:41 PM
Report Offensive CommentToughness equals durability
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! | 05/28/08, 05:41 PM
Report Offensive CommentIf it peeves you too much, just go to each time I wrote "durability" and replace it with "toughness".
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! | 05/28/08, 05:42 PM
Report Offensive Commentok i get it i have poor vocabulary no need to rub it in
GeorgiaFan1000 | 05/28/08, 05:47 PM
Report Offensive CommentLifer
Do I gotta say why???
djroxalot loves TD'ing | 05/28/08, 06:05 PM
Report Offensive CommentMy vote goes -------->
But I would have throw power above toughness in my order. But awareness has to be 1st or 2nd. Awareness is HUGE for a QB as is leadership.
The Advisor | 05/29/08, 02:58 PM
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