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Nickb23- Vote Bullet Bob said 06/04, 05:52 PM
Football is a win NOW game, David Tyree made a tremedous catch, no doubt about it. The thing is before that lucky moment, he was known for having suspect hands and being nothing more than a special teams contributor. He had 35 yards over the course of the regular season.

I have a name for everyone..Timmy Smith, super bowl hero one minute, nobody the next.

Emmitt Smith..would you say he was more of a legend than David Tyree. Would you say he did more for the Cowboys than most players have ever done for their team. He was let go when he still was good, because what you did in the past means nothing in the sports world. You know what, it shouldn't matter.

The Giants have Plaxico, Amani ( the vet, the young guys need around), Steve Smith, Sinorice Moss and just added Mario Manningham. The last 3 are young guys with major upside. The first 2 are going no where.

I will say this if David Tyree can earn a spot over those guys, that's great. If it is close and the Giants cut him cause he is the lesser player, he deserves it. The Giants paid him last year and before that catch he had not earned his pay.

Nickb23- Vote Bullet Bob said 06/04, 06:29 PM
I did not say everyone turns out like Timmy Smith but the man had 204 yards rushing in the Super Bowl. That is money, you should get paid after that, right. Wrong and neither should Tyree. It is a NOW league and even that game means nothing at this point. Earning a job, should be expected of all but a handful of players and one good game does not make you excempt.

Ortiz hit .301 with 41 HR's and 139 RBI's in 2004. The comparision ends before the discussion on that starts.

Look man, the NFL has seen its many goats and heroes in the big game and at the end of the day, you are doing what they paid you to do. Every season is a new one and the drafting of Manningham shows they felt more from that position was necessary.

Look the guys you are comparing him to are WAY out of this discussion. Timmy Smith compares much more favorably and we both know it,.

They are not cutting him cause of his past, if they do indeed cut him. The Giants are aware of what he did. They will not get rid of a good player.

If he is cut it will be deemed he was not a good player. They have the obligation to their franschise to only take into account the now. Last years super bowl has no barring.

Nickb23- Vote Bullet Bob said 06/05, 04:55 PM
I will add one more thing to the crazy Ortiz point in 2003..... .288 31 HR 101 RBI in 128 games, if you ever see a guy with those numbers get cut come and let me now.

Every time I read your arguement, it keeps making me think of Timmy Smith and Larry Brown guys that had BIG games in the Super Bowl and diminished from their on. If 204 yards in the Super Bowl isn't stepping up with your chance to shine against the best team, I don't know what is. He only rushed for 602 yards in his whole career.

How many people have played recreational sports? How many have made or seen a play in those games that was amazing? If you are not raising your hand, you are lieing. I am sorry but one catch does not make a player and people are not voting against you based on the topic. You have compared Brett Favre and David Ortiz to David Tyree.

One play does NOT make you a good player, it means you made one play, nothing more, nothing less.