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Dookie: Here We Go Steelers said 06/05, 10:35 PM
Ok so you have roughly $14,600,000 to make a team to best my team below....the only twist...

you can't use any of the players i have on my team....

think you can beat my team with double the payroll? let's see...

C Geovany Soto $401,000
1B Conor Jackson $419,500
2B Dan Uggla $417,000
3B Alex Gordon $406,000
SS Hanley Ramirez $439,000
LF Carlos Quentin $400,000
RF Justin Upton $393,000
CF Josh Hamilton $396,830

Field Totals: $3,272,330

SP Edison Volquez $392,500
SP Evin Santana $420,000
SP Joe Saunders $425,000
SP Shaun Marcum $402,500
SP Tim Lincecum $405,000
RP Carlos Marmol $430,000
RP Matt Capps, $435,000
RP Tony Pena $405,500
CL Joakim Soria $426,500

Pitcher totals:
$3742000

Must use players at position they played majority of this season's games at (* exception: allowed to have 2 closers)

Total Payroll: $7,014,330

(Based on this year's stats)

(use this site: http://content.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/salaries/default.aspx
for salaries for 2008 only)

Dookie: Here We Go Steelers said 06/07, 02:31 AM
I'll argue hitters first:
Soto 23runs, 10Hr, 39RBI, .283avg, .915 OPS
Martin 28 runs, 4HR, 23RBI, .291avg, .831OPS
Soto has more HR, RBI and a higher OPS...edge Soto

Jackson .301, 6HR, 35RBI, 32Runs, 3SB, .914 OPS, .356 with RISP
Fielder .280, 10HR, 32RBI, 32R, 1SB, .843OPS, .277 with RISP
Jackon has everything but Hrs and a split on runs...edge Jackson

Uggla .309, 18HR, 41RBI, 46 runs, 3SB, 1.046 OPS
Pedroia .271, 4HR, 29RBI, 36R, 6SB, .698
Not even close - Uggla

Gordon
Reynolds No argument - Reynolds takes it

Ramirez .296, 50R, 12HR, 15SB, 27RBI, .901OPS
Escobar .303, 37R, 6HR, 2SB, 27RBI, .792OPS
Ramirez takes all but avg and an RBI split

Quentin .287, 38R, 15HR, 4SB, 50RBI, .961OPS
Braun .299, 33R, 16HR, 2SB, 46RBI, .917OPS
Close - but Quentin takes 4 of 6 (and has 15 less K's and 19 more BBs)

No arg...Ludwick takes it

Hamilton .321, 44R, 17HR, 68RBI, 2SB, .980OPS
Granderson .245, 27R, 7HR, 19RBI, 3SB, .747OPS
Not even close...Hamilton takes all but SBs

So recapping, I take 2B, SS, CF hands down and you take 3b and RF hands down
I take C, 1b, LF in closer matchups but still having better majority of stats.

Pitching staff in last arg

Dookie: Here We Go Steelers said 06/07, 10:37 AM
the easiest way to argue a team is to go player by player. This TD clearly states based on 2008 stats. That means you take into account the year SO FAR. So don't worry about "flash in the pan"s...

Quentin is better than Braun in the majority of stats in 2008...hence it's not "plain silly"

Volquez - 8-2, 1.32 ERA, 1.16WHIP, 91SO
Ervin Santana - 8-2, 3.02 ERA, .98WHIP, 67 SO
Saunders - 9-2, 2.63ERA, 1.09WHIP, 39 SO
Marcum - 5-3. 2.52, .97WHIP, 71 SO
Lincecum - 8-1, 2.15, 1.22WHIP, 83 SO

So you wanna do it by team averages? Fine by me...

My team averages: 7.6W - 1.6L, 2.33 ERA, 1.08 WHIP, 70Ks.

My starters have 38 wins (12 more than yours), almost a full run better era (my worst era is .20 BETTER than your AVERAGE!)

I mean we can go player by player or team by team, but either way you look at it my team is just better.

Jason Hammel - (He's technically a starter by rules 27.2 IP as a starter and 12.1IP as a reliver)

So my complete bullpen is better than yours who is lacking a player...not to mention my closer has a full run better era than yours.

In conclusion - I win field players - sweep pitching staff.....therefore i have the better team