- 06/14/2008, 03:10PM ET
Rookie Sportscards said 06/14, 03:10 PM
Everyone that votes should be required to provide a valid reason why they chose to vote the way they did. It doesn't have to be a long paragraph or anything, just a sentence stating why they voted left vs. right or vice versa.
I just had a TD where my opponent admitted that he lost and later on he still gets votes. How can this be possible unless its a friend of his that blatantly just is voting for him.
I think Fan Nation should REQUIRE every voter to provide reasons for their votes. Meaning you can only vote after you state why you voted that way. This can show if the voters even know anything about the subject vs. just voting for their friends to get an easy win.
What do you think?
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! said 06/14, 03:27 PM
I have a few problems with this...
1. It is going to be impossible to enforce. I'd say that up to (and occasionally well over) 100 TDs are made per day, and you have to figure that there are at least 10 votes for each of these. There are only a few moderators of FN. Do you expect them to go through 1,000+ votes, to see if there were comments along with votes? Not only would this be an impossible task, but it would pull these mods away from more important duties.
2. I just don't like the rule anyways. It isn't my duty to explain why I felt the need to vote for someone. Why should I waste a minute writing up why I voted when I could just as easily do it in a second? I just don't see why I have to explain my reasoning for my choice...that is the job of the the people arguing, not the voter.
3. Along with #2...there are few enough votes in TDs. I've seen many TDs that end without even 10 total votes. Doing this will drop that. You will start to see TDs that have 5 or fewer total votes. People don't want to waste time on something they really don't have a stake in anyways.
I'm sorry you were jipped in that TD, but that's still a rare occurrence. This rule will only hurt FN.
Rookie Sportscards said 06/14, 03:48 PM
1) The TD isn't about whether its possible to enforce or not, its the concept and if you agree with it or not.
If you're not a MOD, then why do you care whether they have the time or not. This rule would help secure and provide integrity to the site, whats more important than that? I bet you that it would encourage more TDs if it was enforced.
I notice I only see the TDers with the 300/400 win records are often logged in to the site. When there are plenty of 20/50 win records on here that don't see the need to even TD anymore because their great arguments get overshadowed by a TDers fanbase, record etc. giving that TDer an easy edge. You have 300 wins, of course you don't want the new rule.
Besides, I comment every TD I vote on. It's not like you have to write an essay, just a sentence. No big deal. I feel its common courtesy to let the TDers know why u voted the way u did.
My record is 8-7-1 but my arguments deserve better. Read my TDs. The problem is when a TDer that has hundreds of friends is TDing a newbie with less than 10 wins, the veteran automatically gets votes without voters even reading the TD in my opinion or they vote on their personal opinion etc.
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! said 06/14, 04:13 PM
Umm..when did you say this TD was about the concept. You say in your first argument that you think this should be a new rule. If you can show me where you said this was in concept only, I'll happily eat my words.
This rule would not encourage more TDs. Besides driving people away from FN (or at least the TDing part of it), there would be fewer voters. I remember back in the day when it was an oddity to see fewer than 20 votes in a TD. Nowadays, 10 and under is the norm. Who wants to TD when there are about 5 votes?
Also, what does your 3rd paragraph have to do with this argument? Even if your rule goes into effect...how would that stop people for voting on their friends? They would put in their little comment, and their vote would go through...am I missing something here?
Congratulations, you're a wonderful person for commenting on why you voted. Guess what? I do that in the majority of TDs I vote in as well. I don't, however, want to be obligated to do this. If I feel like one person has done their job of arguing better, I will vote for them and perhaps say something. Perhaps not. If I was forced to write something, believe me when I say that I would do TDs and vote much less.
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