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he beasted you in career enough said

first you have to wait for arguments second its not a career TD it clearly says past 5 years. I dont care about the career... tell me about the past 5 years. So far left is going to get my vote.

Kearse would have alot better numbers but he just cannot stay healthy. Or he cannot play through pain, one or the other.

Jared Allen is an outright beast. At least with KC he was. It'll be interesting to see how he plays in Minnesota. But his motor has only one gear....overdrive.

It'll also be interesting to see how Umenyiora performs now that Strahan has retired. No doubt Osi is a dominate player but coming in and having a HOFer beside you has to effect how lines block you.

outstanding point raider fanatic, but i think with his age and athletisicm, he will benifit and get stronger. Just think if he had Demarcus ware or Merriman on the other side of him. LOL

dallas, I'm surprised you didn't put Ware ahead of Merriman on current talent. Before last season, Merriman would be an easy pick.

But last year, Ware was a beast, and Merriman took a significant hit... coincidence, or because he was no longer taking steroids? I'd give Ware the nod just because Merriman showed he is more of a 10-12 sack guy NATURALLY, whereas Ware is more of a 14-16 sack guy.

eagleh8r- good point, i didn't look at it that way. Guess he did show what his potential was going to be. I'll keep that in the back my mind

easy vote right. You must have taylor and peppers in your list

EagleH8r do you honestly think Merrimen isn't capable of 14-16 sacks? Or are you saying Ware is better? Neither are right I just wanna know what kind of sewage is spewing out your mouth.

Confucius, what I am saying is gone from 8 to 11 to 14 sacks in his career, and could very well up that to 17 next year and continue the trend. And he does it NATURALLY, and as a complete player.

Merriman, on the other hand, went from 10 to 17 to 12.5 sacks. Interestingly, the HUGE drop coincides with Merriman's first year off of steroids. I'd be surprised if he ever exceeds 14 sacks again, and expect he'll stay in that 10-12.5 range.

And yes, Ware is better. Last year, the playing field was finally even (read: no cheating for Shawne!), and Ware had more sacks and was far more consistent. Merriman was waaaaaaaay too streaky.

Hell, Merriman had 7.5 of his sacks in 4 games against the ABYSMAL offensive lines in KC and Oakland. He was shut out in half of his games. Ware, on the other hand, was only shut out in 5 of his 16 games.

First sentence is about Ware. My bad

I agree with EagleH8r as usual. Demarcus is the MAN.

i wish this had more than 3 arguments but i will use this.

I DID NOT dispute Taylor, but you brought up Kearse and i squashed that.

Peppers- 2.5 last year, and 7.0 in 2003

Ware- 14 last year, 11.5 the year before and 8.0 his rookie year

So so everybody tell me, which one of those 2 is declineing and which one will thrive.

Wares in a better system, organization and has had a better tutor and head coaches since he came in.

taking nuthing from peppers and his ability, but Ware has a better upswing and is becoming a an over all better passrusher every year

Beside, this TD is not about one player, as Mets Fan has ended his arguments with but rather the "top 5". thats what the TD asked for

Kearse? No **** way! Vote left

I am sorry, but you can't make an after Strahan list this soon, let's have a grieving period here first.

I honestly think DeMarcus Ware is more talented than some 'roid user like Merriman.

"i have researched my stats and even though i made a mistake on one thing, i still knew what the TD was about. Read the TD carefully before you enter. that way nobody's backtracking."

If you're going to be the one to make the TD and set the parameters, then you need to be the one to follow those said parameters first.

You listed career numbers instead of the aggregate sacks of your players over the last 5 years. So you can't fault your opponent for following your lead.

Also, if you're going to make a claim that your choices made double digit sacks every year, then you'd better be correct. Just one incorrect statement can destroy your whole line of argument.

You compounded your problems by mentioning backtracking. Exactly who is backtracking in this throwdown?

I'm leaning right because of slightly better arguments.

Stats for the last five years ...
Taylor 59

AARON SCHOBEL 52, aparently only sacks on SportsCenter count though.

Kerney 45
Peppers 44*
Allen 43 in 4 years
Umenyiora 41.5
Kampman 40.5
Merriman 39.5* in only 3 years
Ware 33.5 in only 3 years
Kearse 31.5

Huge omission. Vote to the guy who is going to lose, because no one should win this.