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Should those dangerous maple bats be banned from major league baseball?


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NO, and how is a Maple Bat anymore harmful then a White Ash bat?

As long as they meet the specifications to be used in MLB play then they should remain.


Yes they should be:

The MLB did a commissioned study in 2005 in regards to Maple bats vs Ash bats and found that there is no performance difference between the two style bats, however they did find that Ash bats commonly break into two pieces which if alert a player, or even fan could guard themselves against.
Ash bats on the other hand explode upon breaking sending pieces of wood everywhere and in most cases far into the stands striking multiple fans. Of course many times these fragments are not harmful as they are too small to cause any serious damage, but there have been numerous incidents of fans and players being seriously injured by the shrapnel from these exploding bats to raise eyebrows.
That should answer your question on how a Maple bat is more dangerous(much more) then a Ash bat, and if there is no performance difference then my question to you is, Why take the risk and keep these bats around?
It is not like Maple bats have been used since the dawn of baseball either, many people credit Joe Carter for introducing the league to Maple bats in the 1990's, so the tradition argument is out the window.

more to come.....


I actually never mentioned tradition.

Also this really comes down to yet anothe case of how we have to change rules due to the litigious nature of America. So now we can't play with Maple bats, what's next we have to move teh stadium seats in the outfield back another 100 feet, because god forbid another fan gets hit with a ball.

There is a disclaimer on the back of the ticket. Do these things happen, sure, but does it warrant a complete ban of the maple bat, no.

Has the NCAA banned aluminim bats? No and they cause way more injuries then a wooden bat.

Not to mention all the players that use a maple bat are going to have to switch, and you know how tied baseball players are to the wood they have been using. Could this change cause hitters to slump a little? I think the answer could be yes, I mean Matsui slumped a little when he first came over, simply by changing 1oz of bat weight on his bat. Look at what happened in basketball by simply changing the ball.

Also what impact would this have on the already hurting logging industry.

This ban would be bad for the players, bad for baseball, bad for America and it would se a bad precedent.


I never said you did argue tradition, I was covering it before it even came up:)

The motivations behind why MLB is considering this ban really shouldnt matter. I am sure the concern for being sued is up there on the list, but why would they be sued? Well because fans are getting hit by these bat fragments much more often then any one piece off of an Ash bat.

Scott Rolen recently acknowledged the danger fans face from these bats:
"Im not so much worried myself," Blue Jays third baseman Scott Rolen said. "I'm locked in and concentrated on every pitch and every swing. I can see the ball and the bat. But I don't want my family sitting near the field unless they are behind the [backstop] screen. The bats are a hazard for fans more so than players."

Will players being forced to use Ash bats have slumps, maybe, but lets be realistic, I think in this case the good really outweighs any minor "slumps" you think the change may cause. Take Johnny Damon for instance, after breaking a "small forest" of Maple bats over the years he recently switched to Ash and he says he has not noticed any real difference in his swing or his contact.

I will touch on the logging industry next


I never quit, but I do have a meeting, and since well not one person has read any of my other arguments. I will stand by what I have written so far.

My point in all of this? When will it end? When we as fans can't even go to the stadium anymore because it's to risky?

There is risk invloved in everythign you do in life, people need to get over it.


I appreciate your lack of time as I also have to be somewhere in about ten minutes, so in respect to your non argument I will forgo my last argument and sum up my stance.

Of course there is risk in everything you do in life. And the same goes for going to a baseball game. However, if there is an obvious threat in these Maple bats constantly breaking, and not breaking in a reasonably manageable and safe way such as the Ash bats do, then why throw caution to the wind when there is an easy solution in the form of just getting rid of the bats. Its not like all of these players have not at some point in time used an ash bat before. I was going to share the story of the most notable injury sustained by a fan due to one of these shards flying into the stands, instead I will post the link and if anyone wants to read about it then so be it.


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-bats052908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I guess using spaces for paragraphs doesnt work very well, my apologies

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they should ban them because they are dangerous and could injure someone, and besides, whats the point in using them anyway?

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You have seen a lot more broken bats and injuries since some players switched

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Something has to be done. 3 or 4 bats are being broken every game. Yes, ash breaks as well. The difference is the Maple bat heads tend to fly off in all directions when they snap while the ash does not. Funny thing is barely anyone used Maple until Bonds switched to them and hit 73 home runs. I don't know that they need to be banned, but there needs to be an increase in handle thickness to keep them from shattering so easily.

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Yes,it's quite scary for a bit that's sharp handle is coming up at you at aboutr 100 miles an hour with no warning,normally there are no injuries,but it's not really not a risk they should take if the bats make no difference in performance.

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Slightly better arguments on the right......if there is a known danger, the sport has to do everything to stop it....

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