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  • June 20, 2008 04:31 PM ET

NL All Star Game in 5 years

Raidersb06 *Ken Griffey Jr.* (17-13-3) vs dudeman is gone. (31-44-7)
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C Russel Martin
1B Adrian Gonzalez
2b Dan Uggla
3B David Wright
SS Hanley Ramirez
OF Ryan Braun
OF Matt Holliday
OF Cory Hart

SP Edison Volequez
SP TIm Lincecome
SP Cole Hamels
CP Matt Capps


Well, to save space, I'll just type what I disagree with and argue my side:

1B: Prince Fielder vs. Adrian Gonzalez:

Well, Prince Fielder is just about 2 years younger than Adrian Gonzalez (Prince born on May 9th, 1984, Adrian born on May 8th, 1982), but his career stats are still equal or close to Gonzalez's. Keep in mind that Gonzalez has a total 241 at-bat advantage on Prince.

Stats (Prince first):

HR: 93 vs 81 (Prince)
RBI: 246 vs 269 (Adrian)
AVG: .281 vs .285 (Adrian)
BB: 187 vs 156 (Prince)
K: 314 vs 359 (Prince, because he has less strikeouts)
OBP: .370 vs .346 (Prince)
SLUG%: .537 vs .499 (Prince)

As you can see, Prince wins the stats battle 5-2, and does reign supreme over Gonzalez. In 2013, Gonzalez would be on the ending half of his career, and past his prime, while Prince would be in his prime, and probably be bashing homers left and right (and center to).

Other picks:

Utley over Uggla
Kemp over Holliday

Running out of space, will argue rest later.


Well lets talk about Uggla and Utley...

In 5 years Chase will be 35 and on the back half of his career with practically no speed and decreasing power numbers. He only averages 30 homers a year right now (not this year) and being older will be only near 18-20. His fielding numbers won't be as high even though they aren't superb. His speed isn't his biggest tool but it can't help his range.

Dan is still on the improving part of his career, ( I don't think that he has reached his potential yet.) He will be at HIS PRIME IN 5. His fielding is alittle better and IMPROVING. Even though Chase has more HR's this year by one Dan HAS a HIGHER slugging percentage.

Including this year the Chase has hit 76 homers the last three seasons and Dan 79 and EACH YEAR DAN HAS HIT More.

The last 3 seasons defensivly Chase 35 errors and DAn 32 again Dan is better.

Well Holliday has FAR better power numbers then Kemp Last three seasons Matt 78 Kemp 23. Matt Holliday is only 28 and in 5 will be 33 and can hold similar numbers and dominate Kemp. Holliday's Career average is 320 and Kemp 300 AND is down this year so maybe already declining

OUT of space contiue later!!!


About the errors, look at who they are throwing to. Mike Jacobs is a pretty good fielder while Ryan Howard has terrible glove.

Utley may not be a big power guy, but he hits for a high average and always seems to be in the mix for the NL MVP. Sure his speed may be down a bit, but it will still probably be a ton better than Uggla's.

Utley is a better all around player, while Uggla is just a good slugger.

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Kemp is arguable one of the most touted prospects in the majors. He may be down this year, but I believe that his sophmore slump is coming a year late.

In 5 years, Kemp will be in his prime, while Holliday will be on the downward end of his career. But, my main argument for Kemp is that the rules for the All-Star game are that each team must be represented. Kemp seems like the only person on the Dodgers that will be a stand out all-star (Kershaw isn't proven) and that will automatically get him the all-star team, while Holliday has competition in Tulo, and if he does make it, I doubt he'll be able to surpass Kemp as a starter.


Forfeited Turn


I'll let the voters decide this one.

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June 20, 2008  04:45 PM ET
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Dang dude, I wanted this

June 20, 2008  04:51 PM ET
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Nice spelling.

It is CorEy Hart, RusselL Martin, Edison Volquez, Tim Lincecum.

June 20, 2008  04:52 PM ET
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You got a good team though.

June 20, 2008  04:56 PM ET
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Pitchers: Jair Jurrjens, Edison Volquez, Tim Lincecum, Clayton Kershaw and Matt Garza
Catcher: Geovany Soto 1B: James Loney 2B: Dan Uggla SS: Yunel Escobar 3B: Evan Longoria
OF: Jay Bruce, Nate Mclouth and Ryan Braun

June 20, 2008  05:09 PM ET
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^ It's NL.

June 20, 2008  05:12 PM ET
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So no Evan Longoria.

June 20, 2008  05:15 PM ET
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Should have put Jay Bruce and Nate McLouth as outfielders...

June 20, 2008  05:15 PM ET
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I'll wait to vote until arguments are made... but I'm leaning right

June 20, 2008  05:30 PM ET
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jeff francour???

June 20, 2008  06:28 PM ET
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leaning right...

June 20, 2008  08:38 PM ET
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I'm leaning right for a few reasons, but I do agree with the Uggla over Utley choice seeing as Utley isn't a spring-chicken right now.

June 20, 2008  08:46 PM ET
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So, all of the players on the NL team in five years will all be under 30-years old with one exception? Doubt it - players like Albert Pujols, Jake Peavy and Carlos Beltran will beat out players like Prince Fielder, Adrian Gonzalez, Edinson Volquez and Matt Kemp.

Plus, where is Jay Bruce?

June 21, 2008  08:18 AM ET
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Leaning? is it voting or thinking about voting

June 21, 2008  12:22 PM ET
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Leaning? is it voting or thinking about voting
Raidersb06 *Ken Griffey Jr.* | 06/21/08, 08:18 AM
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People can vote how they want. Don't get mad if they haven't voted for you yet.

June 21, 2008  02:00 PM ET
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Or if they haven't voted for me.

June 21, 2008  02:01 PM ET
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Leaning? is it voting or thinking about voting
Raidersb06 *Ken Griffey Jr.* | 06/21/08, 08:18 AM
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Sorry, misinterpreted that.

It's basically when someone is thinking about voting for one side, but isn't fully sold, so they'll wait for more arguments.

June 21, 2008  05:59 PM ET
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oooooo thanks

June 21, 2008  08:57 PM ET
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Dude(s), I would be remiss if I didn't stick up for Ryan Zimmerman. After all, you said the NL All-Star team 5 years from now.
I'm not voting on this, but only because both of you have made valid arguments.

June 22, 2008  11:04 AM ET
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i think its funny how randomcaribou is going to stalk this throwdown and waits like 2 whole days to put in 1 stupid vote . There are enough arguments already just vote and dont waste your own time. I will vote now and just not come to this td ever again.

 
June 22, 2008  11:04 AM ET
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wait SS=Jose Reyes

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