- 06/26/2008, 06:38PM ET
Denis24 said 06/26, 06:38 PM
I was focusing on the topic for quite some time, and then I realized what exactly it meant. Which team needs that one quarterback to get one step better.
That team would be the Minnesota Vikings.
This team has been favored by many to be the best team in the NFC next season with a runningback tandem of Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor. They have one of the best defensive lines in the league with Pat and Kevin Williams in the middle and Jared Allen rushing the ends.
They've brought in Madieu Williams, Bernard Berrian, and Jared Allen this offseason to help this team get to the next level. Now all they need is a quarterback.
Tavaris Jackson isn't necisarrily a significant starting quarterback in the league, acctually, he is probably one of the top 10 worst starting quarterbacks in this league.
Tarvaris Jackson acctually produced a 70.8 quarterback rating, 1,911 passing yards, and only 9 touchdowns with 12 interceptions.
Minnesota desperately needs a quarterback to get to the next level and not only win their division, but be a contender in the NFC.
Wallace has been blinded said 06/26, 10:45 PM
There are problems that I have with you taking the Vikings (or, more specifically, taking Tavaris Jackson).
The main thing is that Jackson still has potential to become a very successful QB in the NFL. He has yet to start a full season (only having 14 starts in his career), so how is it that you can right off a player so soon? He's shown flashes of a solid player and fits into the Vikings mold pretty well due to his mobility.
Also, the Vikings are already a good team without him. They're focus is on running the ball (and who can blame them with such good RBs and Line) and playing solid defense. Many people predict the Vikings to be a very good team this year with Jackson as their QB.
When I thought about this TD, I needed to choose a team that needs a constant QB- someone they can count on week in and week out. I then thought about how many teams actually have this luxury.
The Bears are not one of them.
Now, I know the Bears have a couple of other problems, but they are in desperate need of a solid QB. They can not count on Orton or Grossman to be that week in and week out guy, both showing way too much inconsistancy for the past 3 years. The Bears need a QB more.
Denis24 said 06/27, 06:49 PM
Considering the Bears situation is the way it is, you could go either way, but I picked the VIkings because this is probably their only real need right now to take it to the next level. The Bears have the RB, WR, and some defensive situations to deal with.
Rex Grossman has shown that he has some game though. He has experience in the playoffs, most notablely in the Super Bowl against the Indianapolis Colts.
Bears passing stats:
72.2 QB Rating | 3701 Passing Yards | 57.5 Com % | 18 TD
Vikings passing stats:
74.2 QB Rating | 2938 Passing Yards | 57.6 Com % | 12 TD
It seems like the Vikings situation is slightly worse, plus, the Vikings are looking for an answer to get to the Super Bowl. There is no clear favorite in the NFC, and if the Vikings somehow find an elite quarterback to lead their offense, there is no telling how far the Vikings can go.
Kyle Orton and Rex Grossman: 50
Tavaris Jackson and John David Booty: 16
The Chicago Bears quarterbacks have more experience and late in games, I'd trust them more than Tavaris Jackson.
Wallace has been blinded said 06/27, 11:22 PM
The problem is that I can't see why the Vikings would want to give up on a player who has been getting much better. The Vikings already have a stellar run game and a good defense, and I still believe that Jackson can be a very good quarterback for them.
Jackson only played 12 games last year, but look at the progression he made:
First 6 games: 771 yards, 51% comp, 2 TDs, 6 ints
Last 6 games: 1,140 yards, 66% comp, 7 TDs, 6 ints
You can clearly see that his stats increased greatly from the first part of the season and at times he showed glimpses of being a very good quarterback. I don't think the Vikings are too bad at their QB position right now with Jackson showing that he is getting better and better.
However, the Bears' QBs have continued to show how inconsistent they really are. You stated how Orton and Grossman have had many games to play, yet their stats and play have declined over time. They have shown that they are just not the answer that the Bears need.
The Bears are in much more need of a young, consistant QB then the Vikings are right now. The Bears need to start over on the offensive end and start with their biggest need since Jim McMahon: Quarterback.
Denis24 said 06/28, 03:01 PM
Sure Tavaris Jackson can be a starting quarterback for a team in the NBA, but maybe for the Dolphins or Raiders, but not the Vikings.
It's not the stats that are the reason the Vikings need to get a better quarterback, it's the reason that Tavaris Jackson seems very hesitant to stand straight up in the pocket without being afraid to take a hit. They must have a quarterback that can take over the game and become a floor general for them and be a team leader.
And at least we've seen Rex Grossman be a good quarterback in this league at stretches during the season. Until Tavaris Jackson improves his footwork and throwing motion, he won't help the Viking compete at all.
In two games last season, Tavaris Jackson only completed 6 passes. And it's not that he didn't attempt to throw the ball that much.
And in the three games that Tavaris Jackson throws tat least 30 passes, all three games the Vikings lost, so that tells you that the Vikings need a more trustworthy quarterback to carry their team.
Good luck Wallace.
Wallace has been blinded said 06/28, 04:10 PM
You're definitely correct in saying that Jackson can be a starting NFL QB, and they're is still absolutely no reason why that team can't be the Vikings.
Again, Jackson is improving week in & out, so why not have faith in him to develop into a great starting QB in the NFL. Also, with the Vikings stellar run game, they don't need him to be a 35 attempts per game guy.
They simply need him to control the game, shown by the fact that the Vikings were undefeated this year when Jackson threw between 20 and 30 passes- very, very impressive. So, with that great RB tandem that the Vikings have as well as a good defense, why would you want him to throw 35 passes or more a game?
Now, the Bears QBs are just plain bad and for the most part do not possess the skills to help get the Bears better. Even when the Bears went to the Super Bowl in '06, Grossman only had a QB rating of 73.9.
Also, Orton just does not seem to be the answer. He's played ok at times, while other times he's been downright dreadful.
I believe that if the Bears want to be contenders again, they first need to start at the QB position. Jackson can still be a good NFL QB. However, Grossman and Orton? You decide.
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