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Moondizzle... said 06/30, 10:12 AM
Well I'm going to clarify a few things before delving face down into this quagmire of a topic.

1. The Giants need not be the focus of this PSL 'scheme'. This is hardly a new topic.

2. This isn't about funding an exhorbatantly priced stadium. This is simply following suit with the league. There are already a dozen teams involved in this, and some are more expensive. The Cowboys haven't won a playoff game in years and they are doing far worse.

3. This isn't an NFL-only situation. A few MLB teams have the same PSL scheme going on.

So there are several angles to take. Is this an assault on the average fan? Sure it is. But as far as cost is concerned, is it any more of an assault than $10 beer, $20 magazines, or anything else they charge for? I'm surprised they haven't charged for oxygen.

This is simply a necessary tactic to take to finance a stadium. All they are doing is following suit with the league. If we can crucify the Giants and Jets, we can crucify the Ravens, Cowboys, Eagles, and a host of others (including the laughable-til-now-Texans). If they are to ensure their profitability commensurate with the rest of the NFL, they must issue the PSL's.

Moondizzle... said 06/30, 11:21 AM
I think using the murder analogy is a bit much...kind of like my mother saying: "if everyone was jumping off the bridge, would you?"

The NFL is a business. If your competitors are employing new strategies to maximize profitability, and you are the nice guy, you are going to be the nice guy with no money eventually.

Again, this isn't just about the Giants. They are building a $1.6 billion stadium for two teams. Secondly, they aren't simply taking advantage of a Super Bowl win, as this was coming regardless.

You may not be able to think of another industry where this flies, but all 3 major sports have at least one team with PSL's.

Ticket prices always rise. As does the cost of merchandise, parking, and refreshments. But those are just marginal increases. They're still killing you softly. This is just a bigger blow.

I'm sticking with my stance from earlier. If there are over a dozen teams utilizing this method, why should the Giants stand idly by? To be the good guys? I think it will be difficult for the average fan. But I can't sit here and tell someone how to run their business.

Worst case - you can flip the PSL via re-sale - and make a sizeable profit.

Moondizzle... said 06/30, 12:08 PM
The fact that they won the Super Bowl has no bearing. This was being set into motion regardless.

You mention the fact that the Giants are profitable and compete with franchises that earn less. This is just the beginning, and has more to do with the NFL than any ONE team. Revenue sharing is a key part of today's game. I can't fathom that over a dozen teams, and now the Jets and Giants, suddenly decided for themselves that this was the way to go. If they abstain, they are creating revenue issues. The NFL is a collaboration of teams. A corporation. They are all operating on the same wavelength, unless you're Dan Snyder.

If the Giants are among the top 5 in profitability, shouldn't they have the right to maintain?

The organization has class. But as I said, this goes beyond the Giants. This is an organizational decision (the organization being the NFL).

These licenses can be re-sold at a profit at the owner's will.

Nobody says anything when prices for everything else skyrockets. We pay to watch. I can't sit here and tell my team to operate their business differently from half the teams in the league if it could jeopardize their financial position.