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TT- The Semi's-Best team( 5 to 8 players) to NEVER make the All-Star roster in the 80s vs the 90s vs the 00s (One decade each) GOAT vs. NICKB23

Nickb23- Vote Bullet Bob said 07/01, 06:23 PM
I pick the 1980's

PG- Derek Harper- Could score, pass and play D. Perfect guy to run a team of talented players.

SG- Byron Scott- Great scorer, who will have no problem being part of a team of good players and fitting in.

SF- Eddie Johnson- Most prolific scorer to not make the all-star game, very consistent player his whole career.

PF- Mychal Thompson- Good scorer, rebounder and defender. Can play center as well.

C- Tree Rollins- Defensive specialist, career high of 4.3 blocks in one season. 8th all- time in blocks.

Bench

Purvis Short, Forward- Instant offense off the bench, once scored 28 per in a season.

James Edwards, Center, forward- Started for the Bad Boy Pistons, knows about winning and playing dirty.

Darrell Griffith, Guard- Decent assist man, great scorer, to give Harper and Scott breathers.

Good Luck G.O.A.T, I'll need it.

G.O.A.T. said 07/02, 12:12 PM
Hey, you're the one with the gaudy record, not me. Let me clarify that the player has to have played at least 7 years in that decade (Petrovic doesn't qualify). I will be choosing the 00s.

PG- Mike Bibby- He's always been a solid scorer with good assist numbers. Averaged over 17 points four times in his career.

SG- Jason Richardson- A very good scorer (career average of 19ppg) and also a decent rebounder for his position.

SF- Richard Jefferson- Another person who can create for himself on offense while also helping out with the rebounding load.

PF- Lamar Odom- He is an underrated player who can not only score when needed to but also make the right passes at the right times. Also a very good rebounder.

C- Tyson Chandler- Not really here for his offense, mainly his defense and rebounding. He's a very good role player to have.

Bench

Corey Maggette, Forward- Very versatile wing player who can get to the rim and get your bigs in foul trouble.

Andre Miller, Guard- The true point guard who is the perfect backup to Bibby. Good assist numbers with 8 per game.

Marcus Camby, Center- Another guy here for his outstanding defense. He can give Odom and Chandler rest.

Nickb23- Vote Bullet Bob said 07/02, 04:56 PM
PG- Harper had over 16 PPG, 7 years to Bibby's 4. Harper had over 7 assists 5 times to Bibby's 2 and over 1.8 steals 7 times to Bibby's ZERO. He also never had over 2.5 Turnovers and Bibby has 3 times. Harper was also a better shooter, 46% to 44%. Harper was just a better point across the board.

SG- Richardson beats Scott in alot of areas, but Scott shot at a 48.2% clip to Richardson 43.5%. 3 times he shot better than 50%, J- Rich has never shot over 44.6. Between that and the fact that Scott knows how to win, I think he evens it up.

SF- Jefferson appears to be the Eddie Johnson of this era, his numbers in the 00's compare very favorably to Johnsons of the 80's.

PF- Thompson was a much better shot blocker and shooter. He was also a decent passer for a big man with 4.8 APG one year, Odom's only edge is there, but not by much. Thompson is a true power forward, Odom not so much

C- Tree is the best defender of either of our teams, he makes the paint VERY tough to get to. Tyson will not have CP3 to make him look good and offensively both of these guys will be irrelevant

On top of all of this you do NOT have a winner of Byrons ability to lead your starters. Bench next..

G.O.A.T. said 07/02, 08:33 PM
I was under the impression that stats are only being compared from that decade, which I'm pretty sure is what this topic means.

It was also pretty clever of you to compare how many times they averaged whatever in their career because, for a lot of my guys, their careers aren't even over, which puts them at a disadvantage. You were trying to pull a fast one, Nick, and I caught it. I'm going to compare their averages for their decade.

PG
Harper- 13.5 pts, 6 ast, 2.7 reb
Bibby- 17 pts, 6 ast, 3.3 reb

Bibby wins.

SG
Scott- 16.5 pts, 3 ast, 3.2 reb
Richardson- 18.8 pts, 3 ast, 5.4 reb

Although Scott was a slightly better shooter, Richardson still averaged more in his decade and was a MUCH better rebounder. 2-0 me

SF
I agree. They are similar and I'll call it a push.

PF
Odom's versatility would kill the less athletic Thompson. MISMATCH!

Thompson- 14.5 pts, 7.7 reb, 2.4 ast, 1.2 blk
Odom- 15.3 pts, 8.8 reb, 4.5 ast, 1 blk

Much better shot blocker? BS. He averaged 4.8 ONE year? Odom averaged almost that for his CAREER. 3-0 me

C

Tree- 5.6 pts, 6.2 reb, 2.4 blk
Tyson- 8.2 pts, 9 reb, 1.4 blk
Tyson is better on O and is a better rebounder. 4-0 me.

Nickb23- Vote Bullet Bob said 07/03, 05:19 PM
Harper was a MUCH better defender than Bibby and once given the keys as the starter he was more consistent. 16, 7 and 2 steals all of the last 4 years of the 80's

J-Rich has been mired in mediocrity, while Byron led the 1988 NBA champions in scoring. Also the position is SHOOTING guard and Byron 50.3% to 44.1% from J-Rich.

Odom can NOT be depended on when he is NEEDED(Finals) and you are selling Thompson short, he was more athletic than you say (1st overall pick for a reason).

Neither of the centers will be able to score on each other, Tyson is better on the glass, but Tree is the 8th best block shot man EVER.

Bench

Purvis Short is the best pure scorer on either team. He once dropped 59 in a game. He also averaged 28 in a season before a injury slowed him down. He could take over in a heartbeat off the bench.

Griifith can do the same from the guard spot, he averaged over 20 his first five years in the league.

Edwards gives us another guy who KNOWS how to win, he started for the bad boy Pistons and can bully you in the paint.

I have a great shooting starting 5 led by a champion and great defenders, much better scoring off the bench and an overall BETTER TEAM.

G.O.A.T. said 07/03, 06:14 PM
You can't just pick and choose a player's good years. If I took out the last two years of Bibby's career, he has a nice stat line of 17, 6, and 1.3 steals.

Obviously, for those first couple years of the decade, Harper was left off the AS teams for a reason. You have to take the decade as a whole.

J-Rich was mired in mediocrity EXCEPT for the fact that he has a BETTER stat line than Scott. I guess that makes Scott mired in below average mediocrity.

You surely agree with me that Thompson wouldn't be able to keep up with Odom's athleticism and speed. About the Finals, he caught a slump at the wrong time. You can't take 6 games and say that a player can't be depended on because he didn't do that well in those games. Also, Phil Jackson wasn't running the plays to Odom after he had a hot start in Game 4.

In modern NBA, there is a 3-second count for defensive players. Tree wouldn't be able to hang out in the lane and, as you said, Tyson wouldn't be taking all the shots.

Your team is a bunch of scorers, except for Tree. You don't have the role players that I do. You have Short and Griffith on your bench. Just what you don't need: more scorers.

MY TEAM IS BETTER.