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Porkins: Catches bullets said 07/02, 01:20 PM
Good O-line there...I've got even #s

QB- Otto Graham, #14- Cleveland Browns
RB- Barry Sanders, #20- Detroit Lions
FB- Jim Brown, #32- Cleveland Browns
WR- Don Hutson, #14- Green Bay Packers
WR- Steve Largent, #80- Seattle Seahawks
TE- Kellen Winslow, #80- San Diego Chargers

LT- Anthony Munoz, #78- Cincinnati Bengals
LG- Bruce Matthews, #74- Houston/ Tennessee Oilers
C- Jim Otto, #00- Oakland Raiders
RG- Will Shields, #68- Kansas City Chiefs
RT- Jackie Slater, #78- Los Angeles/ St. Louis Rams

Man...evens make a really good freakin' team.

I won't argue since you just listed.

Porkins: Catches bullets said 07/02, 04:16 PM
QB: I like the effort, but really...you're going to compare passing yards across eras? You know it doesn't work like that. Graham was as DOMINANT a winner as the NFL has ever seen.

RB: I have the best back in Jim Brown. I have the 2nd best back in Barry Sanders. ULTIMATE thunder and lightning duo.

Doak didn't do jack as an RB at the pro level so unless we're all going to back to college, I think we can stop talking about him.

Bronco's entire offensive career was topped by any two of Brown's seasons. My backfield is just in a different league.

WR: Hutson is the best WR in history not named Rice. His 68.9 yds/game and 99 TDs dwarf Fred's numbers even though Hutson played in a era that didn't focus on passing.

Largent vs Holt is closer, but I still take it. Largent is Top 10 all-time in yards and TDs plus has a HOF spot. Someday Holt might match up, but not today.

TE: Kellen Winslow changed the way TEs played. Even playing in a BIG YARDAGE era, Gates can't match him:

KW: 5 rec/game, 68.9 yds/game
AG: 4.4 rec/game, 56.6 yds/game

No way Gates tops a legend like Winslow.

At best, QB is a wash
I take RB and FB easily
I take WR
I take TE

Porkins: Catches bullets said 07/02, 05:48 PM
1. I'm laughing at your TE args. Winslow, Newsome, and Mackey DEFINED the position. I used yds/game to be KIND to you. Winslow has 200 MORE CATCHES and 2700 MORE YARDS. Come talk to me in 5 more years when it MIGHT be a contest.

2. RB/FB is not close. Doak's CAREER rushing is less than Barry's average SEASON. Come on. And FB? Even you can't argue Jim Brown.

3. Yds/game is all you have for Holt because Largent smokes him otherwise.

-MORE catches
-MORE yards
-BETTER avg
-MORE TDs
-HOF

Again, come back in 5 years when it MIGHT be a contest.

4. I see you were too afraid to address the O-Line. Makes sense. I have the best OT ever and another one in the Top 5. Matthews in the most versatile of any, and Otto has more than TWICE as many PBs AND APs as Dwight.

I take 3 of those 5 spots at worst.


And look:

Pro-Bowls...Me 96...You 66
All-Pros...Me 61...You 31

Ouch.

Also,

Top 3 backs: Me 2, You 0
Top 3 WR: Me 1, You 0
Best OT ever: Me 1, You 0

You made this about QB and TE because I win the rest.

QB- push
RB- ME
FB- ME
WR- ME x 2
TE- ME
OL- ME x 3

2 best backs ever, 2nd best WR, best OT ever, Top 5 TE. Good try.