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  • July 04, 2008 05:16 PM ET

2009 NBA Draft top 5

madler (29-32-4) vs Civardi (112-91-12)
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List First- argue 2/3

Top 5 with teams

1) NYK- Ricky Rubio
2) Memphis- Blake Griffin
3) Seattle- BJ Mullins
4) Minnesota- James Harden
5) Milwaukee- Brandon Jennings


Ill use your order even though the records and lottery lottery wont turn out this way

1) New York Knicks - Agree
2) Memphis Grizzles - BJ Mullens
3) Oklahoma City........... - Blake Griffin
4) Minnesota T-Wolves - Demar DeRozan
5) Milwaukee Bucks - Agree


Sorry i am still wishing the Sonics were still in Seattle

So we have BJ Mullins vs. Blake Griffin and Demar DeRozan v. James Harden

First you are taking college freshman off great years against players who have never played college ball-This year's class is not like the last 2-there is no Mayo, Beasley, Gordon, Rose, Durant, or Oden
Griffin averaged almost 15 and 10 last year at Oklahoma
He is big, athletic, productive and more NBA-ready than Mullins

Griffin is a better rebounder than Mullins, is more athletic, is stronger (Mullins needs to add 20 lbs), and has better potential

James Harden v. Demar DeRozan
Harden averaged 18 ppg last year-he is a better scorer and a much better defender than DeRozan- DeRozan is a punk, does not play d, is Mayo with less strength, skills and no PG play


Memphis needs a true center and Griffen is more of a twiner. At 6'8 Griffen doesnt have great size but Mullens does at 7'1. Plus as a freshmans Griffens numbers were nothing great since he only scored 15 points while Mullins will do much better in an Ohio State offensive that fouces on its center which will make his look a whole lot better then Griffen and well worth the second pick.

Demar DeRozan is going to have a better collage season then Harden and as weve seen in the last few years normally the freshman gets picked before the Sophomore. Demar is a great player whos offense makes up foir his average defense, hes fast and quick off the dribble reminding me of VC. He'll light up the crowd with a drive and dunk then the next time he has the ball swish a three. Hes a better player then Harden and it will show when he gets picked before him in the draft


Memphis needs a PF and a C- Darko is better than Hakeem Warrick- Mullins is just not as good as Griffin- Griffin is not a tweener-he is a PF-very simple- he is a Carlos Boozer clone- stronger than everyone else, works harder than anyone else
Mullins is an unathletic big white center- Spencer Hawes (#10 in 07), Andrew Bogut (#1 in 05), Chris Kaman (#6 in 03) and none of them have turned out to be stars- Memphis will not make that mistake
DeRozan is blessed with athletic talent, but not much else-Harden is a more complete player and will school DeRozan when the 2 meet in the Pac-10 next year

Freshman have been going over other players the last couple of years b/c we have had 2 of the best freshman classes of the last 20 years-this years class (especially if Jennings goes to Europe) is very weak


Forfeited Turn

July 4, 2008  06:03 PM ET

good luck

July 4, 2008  06:29 PM ET

u really think the Knicks will get the #1 pick?

the Knicks NEVER get ANY luck!

July 4, 2008  10:30 PM ET

Thabeet should be up there.

July 4, 2008  10:30 PM ET

Who would have thought Michael Beasley would go #2 at this point last year? Who would have thought Russell Westbrook would ahve gone in the first round? I have mock drafts this early.

July 4, 2008  11:41 PM ET

madler is right, this years class is supposed to be fairly weak. Especially compared to the last two classes.

July 5, 2008  09:58 PM ET

no hansborough?

 
July 6, 2008  01:35 AM ET

No Chase Buddinger ?

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