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FanMan: is back! said 07/08, 10:27 PM
Make an NFL offense with the players last names starting with m,n,o, and p.
This is current players and use- 1QB, 2, rb, 3 wr, 1 te, LT, LG, C, RG, LT. And a coach.

Good luck and you may go 1st.

NYGiantsSBXLIICHAMPS said 07/08, 10:58 PM
QB: Peyton Manning
RB: Adrian Pederson
RB: Clinton Portis
WR: Randy Moss
WR: Terrell Owens
WR: Brandon Marshall
TE: Heath Miller
LT: Jason Peters
LG: Logan Mankins
C: Tom Nalen
RG: Stephen Neal
RT: Kareem McKenzie

FanMan: is back! said 07/08, 11:39 PM
Ok after looking through your list, it was very good. Although I found 1 Difference at RB. Now I thought their was maybe 2 RBs better than portis, I though 1 was more better (grammer?)

willis McGahee VS Clinton Portis.

McGahee- 294 carries, 1,207, 4.1ypc, 7 TDs, 4 fumbles,

Portis- 325 carries, 1,262 Yds, 3.8 ypc, 7 TDs, 6 fumbles.

So Portis has 55 more yds but 31 more carries. If you gave McGahee that many Rushes he'd have bout 1334 yds. which is 72 more yds for McGahee. They have 7 Tds each but if he had 31 more carries he may have got another. Then you have portis with 2 more fumbles. Which shows hes more fumble prone.

But then look at this, McGahee had NO passing game to help him. So the other team would just key on him. but he STILL had better average. And an injured o-line.

But wait, thats not it-

McGahee- 5 20+ yds plays, 1 40+
Portis- 3 20+yds plays, NO plays over 40+yds.

So McGahee is a more explosive RB as well.

So bottom line is that McGahee had a better average and less fumbles. Hes a better blocker, and Had defenses keying on him but still did good with an injured o-line.

more to come.

NYGiantsSBXLIICHAMPS said 07/09, 12:30 AM
So basically your only argument for this throwdown is that Portis fumbled two more times on over 30 more carries?

Portis still did have the better year, and it's not as if he had the Patriots offense behind him. He had one viable WR in Santana Moss, and two overpaid underperformers in Randle El and Lloyd. Todd Collins, yes the same Todd Collins that hadn't started an NFL game in a decade
was under center for the Redskins for the final 1/4th of the season, so don't try to act as though Washington had some other great players on offense last season

Overall Portis has had the much better career. McGahee's highest total of TD's in one year over the last three seasons was in 2007, when he rushed for 7 . That has been Portis' fewest amount of TD's during that span, and I didnt even mention that Portis missed half of that year due to an injury

Outside of the season that Portis only played 8 games due to injury, Portis has had more rushing yards than McGahee every single season of his career

And please, tell me exactly how you know McGahee is more explosive than Portis and how he's a better blocker? What actual facts do you have to back that up?

FanMan: is back! said 07/09, 02:15 PM
umm Did you Read my argument? I argued alot more than that he had 2 less fumbles.

He Had a better average than him
He had alomost as much yards and had less carries
and more just why dont you go back and read it again.

Now I haver said he had a GREAT offense behind him. But Really Whos offense is better? RAvens or redskins. I mean we had Kyle bollar most the season with no good WRs.

The Redskins averaged 216 passing yds a game
The ravens had a 189 Yds a game average

So Portis had more help.
And this isnt based on carrer wise or brandon Marshall wouldnt be up there. This isnt carrer wise.

"And please, tell me exactly how you know McGahee is more explosive than Portis and how he's a better blocker? What actual facts do you have to back that up? "

Ok how bout the stats I showed you before -

McGahee- 5 20+ yds plays, 1 40+
Portis- 3 20+yds plays, NO plays over 40+yds.

I mean Did you READ this at all? He had alot bigger plays, even with the defense packing the line because they cant pass.

And Your right I cant give stats to show the better blocker, you know that by watching the games.

And please READ my argument this time please.

NYGiantsSBXLIICHAMPS said 07/09, 02:48 PM
Portis' and McGahees numbers from last season are way too close to call. If you look at the two players age and look at their career productivity, Portis is slightly younger and clearly the better player.

My biggest issue here is you tell me to go first, yet only put down one difference, a weaker difference in my opinion. You couldn't find another tight end or even an offensive lineman to replace any of the ones that I put down?

I know that this isn't on career, but its obvious Portis has been the better back throughout his career. And the one full season he wasn't he still had the same amount of touchdowns and ran for more yards.

To the voters, I honestly cannot believe that I'm trailing by 6 even before my final argument. The facts are, I made a great team, my opponent decided to change just one out of the 12 possible players, and yet he replaces only one of my running back with a slightly worse one. And he's winning! This makes absolutely no sense to me. I have obviously done more than my opponent in this throwdown, I actually made a team, and I'm losing by a pretty big margin. Next time wait for arguments, because there should be no reason that there's 24 votes now

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Instead of a 2nd LT, it should be a RT. My bad.

FanMan: is back! | 07/08/08, 10:31 PM

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