Nebraska Cornhuskers Over/Under: 6.5 Wins This Season.
Pootin supports Retiring 51 said 07/11, 01:22 PM
Gotta go under, not only is their schedule more difficult this year than yester year, but now no small school is just going to bow to the mighty power.
Western Michigan: Win
San Jose State: Win
New Mexico State: Win
Virginia Tech: Loss
Missouri: Loss
at Texas Tech Loss
at Iowa State Swing Game: @ Iowa State Penitentury is always a tough one, the wind is howling, the refs are never fair no matter how bad the team is and the fans are always wild and crazy. Plus they are much improved from last season and finished very strong; losing 17-7 against OU, playing Missouri well, and beating Colorado and Kansas St.
Baylor Win
at Oklahoma Loss
Kansas Loss
at Kansas State Swing Game: Josh Freeman is consistently inconsistent, showing why he was a top recruit at times and then other times you wonder why he showed up in uniform if he's not going to play. @ K St is tough, they've knocked off Texas two years in a row, and were 5-3 before crumbling and losing the last four games.
Colorado Loss
Even if they win both those toss ups they finish 6 and 6.
Porkins said 07/11, 01:51 PM
You forgot one major factor.
Coaching.
Callahan was a bad coach. He couldn't control the team and failed to implement a game plan that worked.
Why will this year be different?
Because Bo Pelini has proven that he can fix mistakes and turn things around.
In 2002, Nebraska had the 55th ranked defense in the nation. The following year, Coach Frank Solich hired Pelini as his defensive coordinator.
Pelini overhauled the defense and by the end of 2003 Nebraska was ranked 11th and led the nation in turnovers.
From 55th to 11th.
Solich was fired and Pelini led the team to bowl win before departing for Oklahoma where he helped fix the rush defense.
Pelini then went to LSU where he maintained a Top3 defense for three straight seasons.
Now he's back in Lincoln. The Huskers went 5-7 last year despite having a TERRIBLE defense. According to NCAA statistics, they ranked:
116th against the rush
75th against the pass
114th in scoring D
AND 112th in total D.
To put that in perspective, there are only 119 teams TOTAL.
They managed 5 wins while stopping no one, and you think they can only do 1 better?
Pelini's history says different.
Pootin supports Retiring 51 said 07/11, 02:39 PM
Pelini's prior teams and this team have two major differences:
Talent
& Pressure
Those LSU, OU, and prior Nebraska teams were all laiden with talent, big, fast defenders, especially at LSU and OU.
This Nebraska team is Senior laiden which usually means good things, but when your just returning one of the worst defenses in the country that doesn't matter too much.
Not to mention the team lost its best defender by far in Zackary Bowman. The CB was virtually the only positive on that defense last year and this year he is being replaced by a first year starter, yikes!
Don't expect any help from last year's recruiting class either, their only recruit who will have any impact this year is OL Baker Steinkuhler.
Then theirs the added pressure on Pelini to deiver those exact expectations you just stated, and he's a first year head coach.
The team Defense will be improved but how much can you do when last year they gave up:
40 or more 6 times
30 or more 8 times
and three of those non-thirty games were:
Iowa State
Nevada
and Wake Forest
Even if the D cracks the top 80 the O is far worse this year.....
Porkins said 07/11, 02:58 PM
Really? Nebraska was so much MORE talent-laden in 2002 that they had the 55th ranked defense?
Wow. Talent.
Look at Pelini's accomplishments. He turns shlt into shinola. Nebraska still has talent, trust me. Callahan was just lousy at using it.
1. Look at your predictions.
You have a "swing game" against an ISU team that finished 3-9. But against 3-9 Baylor it's a lock for a win. What?
And you assume a loss against Colorado. The same Colorado that went 6-7 last year. Yet you call KSU a swing game.
KSU went 5-7. Colorado went 6-7. I'd say both of those could go either way.
Not to mention that their offense put 51 points up versus CU...that should have been MORE than enough to win.
2. They lost based on horrible defense. Your own argument SHOWS how bad they were!
40 or more 6 times
30 or more 8 times
I don't care WHO you are...30+ usually means a loss.
Pelini hasn't a defense outside of the top 15 in ANY year where he's been a DC or higher. The days of giving up 30+ are over.
And with those kinds of adjustments, there's no way they only improve by 1 win.
Osbourne's back. Pelini's back. The wins will follow.
Pootin supports Retiring 51 said 07/11, 03:20 PM
What adjustments? Is he bringing in new talent that I haven't heard about?
You didnt say anything in that arguement, you just restated how bad they were, no Defensive coordinator, or any coordinator for that matter has THAT big of an impact to go from bottom ten, then lose your best defender, and then end up near the top 50. It's not the NFL where everyone i capable, its college football.
Colorado improved much more than K St did and it's Dan Hawkins's third year now and Cody Hawkins was a Freshmen last year. Check any NCAA site like Rivals, Colorado is near the top 25, K St is not.
Then theirs the Offense which is worse this year. Ganz may have proven himself but guess what?
His best targets, Purify, and Hardy, are gone so the mediocre offense of last year only gets worse. Three times they failed to put up more than two touchdowns last year.
Pelini doesn't have a magic wand that he can wave to change this team around in one year. Theirs no big time recruits coming in as freshmen either.
A less than mediocre D and a mediocre offense dont win you 7 games in the Big 12.
You still have yet to tell me what games they win that I dont have as W's or swings.
Porkins said 07/11, 03:31 PM
"Ganz may have proven himself but guess what? His best targets, Purify, and Hardy, are gone so the mediocre offense of last year only gets worse."
Mediocre? WHAT?
Nebraska's offense was RANKED NINTH in the nation.
NINTH!
The reason that I'm focusing on defense is that they had a TOP 10 offense and yet went 5-7. So where do YOU think the fault lies? You're right about one thing- Ganz has improved.
1. Nebraska had a Top 10 offense that averaged 33.4 points/ game
2. Their defense was 112th out 119 teams
3. Pelini previously took a 55th ranked defense to 11th in ONE YEAR
That's my line of reasoning.
IF they don't give 30 or more points EIGHT times, THEN they won't lose as many games. That's about as basic as it gets.
Their biggest question mark is D-line play, and that happens to be Pelini's specialty. Which is WHY he was hired.
"A less than mediocre D and a mediocre offense dont win you 7 games in the Big 12. "
1. They DID NOT have a mediocre offense AT ALL
2. Pelini has NEVER had anything less than a TOP 13 defense.
You can't seriously believe he won't turn the D around.
And that's good for MORE of an improvement than ONE WIN.
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Comments (20)
DAMN u Porkins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
djroxalot excited abt new job | 07/11/08, 01:25 PM
Report Offensive CommentWell i got to go to lunch and got a busy day so i might not get back to this till tonight.
Pootin supports Retiring 51 | 07/11/08, 01:34 PM
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You sir are dumbest person i have ever seen comment on FN if you think for one secound that the Huskers dont have any talent on there team, you must of Down Syndrome that it, let me help you. Think about it for little bit, tell yourself this ok, know read because it must be difficult for you to do by yourself, The University of Nebraska has one the best(top 5) football programs in the country, has the best tradition(top 5) then anyother program in the country, has the best fans in the country, we have one of the best(top3) stadiums, facilities and wieght rooms and we have National Championships unlike Muke Fizzo. So you are trying to say we built all this for looks and to take up space, you are an idiot. The Huskers only get the best talent period, but when you have a bad coach or 2 or 3 (Bill C, Casgrove) you suck as a team. So enjoy sucking once agian at the bottom of the Big 12.
Husker Pride | 07/11/08, 03:06 PM
Report Offensive CommentPorkins said 07/11, 02:58 PM
Really? Nebraska was so much MORE talent-laden in 2002 that they had the 55th ranked defense?
Wow. Talent.
Look at Pelini's accomplishments. He turns shlt into shinola. Nebraska still has talent, trust me. Callahan was just lousy at using it.
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Umm thats twice as good as last year's squad and I would hardly consider OU and LSU as "shlt."
Pootin supports Retiring 51 | 07/11/08, 03:22 PM
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You sir are dumbest person i have ever seen comment on FN if you think for one secound that the Huskers dont have any talent on there team, you must of Down Syndrome that it, let me help you. Think about it for little bit, tell yourself this ok, know read because it must be difficult for you to do by yourself, The University of Nebraska has one the best(top 5) football programs in the country, has the best tradition(top 5) then anyother program in the country, has the best fans in the country, we have one of the best(top3) stadiums, facilities and wieght rooms and we have National Championships unlike Muke Fizzo. So you are trying to say we built all this for looks and to take up space, you are an idiot. The Huskers only get the best talent period, but when you have a bad coach or 2 or 3 (Bill C, Casgrove) you suck as a team. So enjoy sucking once agian at the bottom of the Big 12.
Husker Pride | 07/11/08, 03:06 PM
HAHA OMFG.
Where do we start?
"you must of Down Syndrome that it, let me help you. Think about it for little bit, tell yourself this ok, know read because it must be difficult for you to do by yourself"
MUST OF DOWN SYNDROM.... ABOUT IT FOR LITTLE BIT... KNOW READ BECAUSE IT MUST BE DIFFICULT
???
****!
Pootin supports Retiring 51 | 07/11/08, 03:26 PM
Report Offensive CommentThen you don't even talk about the team, only the history... and last i checked Missouri's new indoor training facilities, weight room, and coaches and player compex across from the stadium is tops in the Big 12 sooo your not even right about that.
I'll give ya the history but Jesus Christ....
Pootin supports Retiring 51 | 07/11/08, 03:27 PM
Report Offensive Commentgotta go left i watched the colorado game and that defense is the worst i have seen in a long time.
that defense will be given up in bunches and you just cant score that much.
AnonymousDan | 07/11/08, 03:32 PM
Report Offensive Commentgrazi
Pootin supports Retiring 51 | 07/11/08, 03:33 PM
Report Offensive CommentWhat does Missouri's training facility have to do with anything?
You don't justify your predictions, and you downplay the fact that they lost based on poor defense. Tom Osbourne knows Nebraska football better than any of us. Why do you think he chose Pelini?
The offense was getting it done, but you can't win if you don't stop anyone. They were revolving doors on D and still had 5 wins. I doubt we'll see them giving up points like that with pelini around.
Porkins | 07/11/08, 03:35 PM
Report Offensive Commentgotta go left i watched the colorado game and that defense is the worst i have seen in a long time.
that defense will be given up in bunches and you just cant score that much.
AnonymousDan | 07/11/08, 03:32 PM
Did you bother to read anything I wrote?
Porkins | 07/11/08, 03:35 PM
Report Offensive CommentDid you bother to read anything I wrote?
Porkins | 07/11/08, 03:35 PM
Why should I waste my time reading anything you write when I can just assume what you will say and vote according to that. Vote left!!!
The Ram | 07/11/08, 03:40 PM
Report Offensive CommentWhy should I waste my time reading anything you write when I can just assume what you will say and vote according to that. Vote left!!!
The Ram | 07/11/08, 03:40 PM
Your logic is impenetrable!!
Porkins | 07/11/08, 03:43 PM
Report Offensive CommentI am going to put this out there but please don't assault me for it. VA Teck is not as strong as many are making them out to be. Yes they put up wins in the ACC but honestly, couldn't most anyone now a-days? The ACC is no where near where they used to be a few years ago. VA Tech is a middle tier team at best. I think Nebraska at this point may be as well and that gives them a 50-50 shot at VA Tech. I for one think they will win that game. They will end the year with 8 wins including an easy (Lower Tier) Bowl Game.
This is just my opinion and with that and one US Dollar you can get a decent cup of coffee at StarBucks.
Azmodi (Is saying goodbye) | 07/11/08, 03:53 PM
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Lets SEE have you ever been to the UNL if you have you must be blind b/c it makes Muke Fizzo Campus/Stadium/facilities look like a garbage dump.
Husker Pride | 07/11/08, 04:00 PM
Report Offensive CommentDid you bother to read anything I wrote?
Porkins | 07/11/08, 03:35 PM
You can't seriously believe he won't turn the D around.
i refuse to read anything you wrote cause can't is not in my dictionary.
AnonymousDan | 07/11/08, 04:02 PM
Report Offensive Commentporkins,
nice job man, the campus/stadium/facilities bit is about talent, and recruiting.
Husker Pride | 07/11/08, 04:03 PM
Report Offensive CommentHey... Porkins... I said they would improve, they wont be anywhere near the top 50 though. More like 70 or 80, and i realise that Pelini is a good hire you f\/cking dipshlt, I said that at least twice. That doesn't mean he can turn it around in one year, did Spurrier turn around South Carolina in one year? NO.
The offense WAS mediocre.
Yes they were 9th in the nation in YPG but what about in PPG... hmm i dont see them in the top 25 do you?
Oh here they are AT... twenty eight, not bad but not great... and looky here some more interesting things you managed to leave out:
Here's a breakdown of the "9th best offense in the country"
6 points @ Missouri
14 AT HOME against A&M
14 AT HOME against Ok St
Non-Conference PPG (excluding USC): 37.6
Conference PPG: 32.125
Now that number in Conference looks pretty good but it is VERY inflated. Take a look at this:
The final two games of the season: 124 points
Other 10 games: 27.7 PPG
Conference PPG (non including the final two games): 22.16 PPG
So if your truly a Top 10 offense shouldn't you be able to put up big numbers week in and week out. Not just for a two week period plus the shoddy non-conference opponents?
Final totals:
PPG excluding the final two games: 27.7 (63rd in the country, one spot ahead of Colorado)
YPG excluding the final two games: 442 (which would put them 24 spots lower at 33)
So yes infact the Offense was very Mediocre, you said it yourself 120 teams and they were 63rd in scoring for the exception of two flukes and even lower if you exclude the bad teams they beat in non-conference and i do believe middle of the country is very mediocre is it not?
Pootin supports Retiring 51 | 07/11/08, 05:36 PM
Report Offensive CommentI think Pellini will turn around the defense, no question. But not in one year. And Retire 51 is right about the ISU game, that will be much tougher than a home game against Baylor.
TenRingsSTL | 07/11/08, 06:00 PM
Report Offensive CommentSo Porkins, which of the 6 losses do you think Nebraska wins......not counting the swing games?
TenRingsSTL | 07/11/08, 06:01 PM
Report Offensive CommentYeah i like he won... but never really said much other than Bo Pelini... Bo Pelini... Bo Pelini...
Pootin supports Retiring 51 | 07/13/08, 01:04 PM
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