gocoltsgo said 07/17, 11:52 AM
First off gotta give credit to Savage, I think, who started the NFL one of these because Im fully copying his topic because it was hella sweet.
The NFL cancels all contracts currently in the NFL and all contracts are null, all players are throwin into a fantasy draft, who do you take? If you wanna do a few of these for like the top 3/5/10 players in the draft Im down, I got a lot of time to kill today.
I saw in the other one the picks were Mario Williams and some LT, forget who, while I agree with a defense first philosophy I have to say that if Im going to build my franchise around this first round pick I want someone who commands teams to try to counter him specificaly which then opens up other avenues of my game as well as a young player whos here for the long haul.
Id have to take Adrian Peterson, hes a breakout star, only in his second year in the NFL with no serious injuries to speak of and he would be not only a focal point of my offense but of my opponents defense. The only problem I can see with AP is the possibility of him not repeating, but with such an outstanding year I cant see him falling too far from his incredible rookie season.
NCshvDavid Throwndowns: 1000 said 07/17, 12:32 PM
First off this was MY FRIKKlN Idea
Next.
Pick one
Joe THomas- the man is a Rookie and a BEAR at LT.
Running backs- other than a VERY SELECT FEW - are almost interchangeable.
I am sure there are going to be TONS of commentors talking about the Cowboys line and Emmit and Barry and HIS Line.
Point of fact is no RB is going to be worth a POO without a good line.
and look who is in front of AD
Thats right a pretty good line,
But AD has another issue.
He started 9 games- and only played in 14- due to injury
This is not Jim Brown here as far as durablilty either.
WAY too risky-
I get top pick I need someone that will be my base for 10+ years
I need JOE THOMAS
gocoltsgo said 07/17, 01:04 PM
Im not sure that I agree that the majority of RBs are interchangeable, I think that this may hold true if the focal point of your offense is not your backfield. By having a stud, young RB as the main producer on my offense I can: Slowly introduce a rookie, or younger quarterback by keeping it on the ground, the same way Big Ben was broken in by the Steelers. It also allows me to hold on to leads more efficently by running the ball and the clock in second halves of games, forcing wheoever Im playing to pass the ball and make them one dimensional. It also keeps my defense off the field longer so I can focus on a strong pass rush without worrying about their endurance.
To address your point about interchangeable RBs further, although I agree to an extent I would say this applies further to the OL. Offensive lineman can be found extremely late in the draft and can fit perfectly into offensive schemes. Because my **** work computer cant open more than one internet window I can only really site Jeff Saturday as a 100% example, as he went undrafted in his draft year and is a multiple pro bowler, I also want to say Tarik Glenn, but I cant commit 100% to that.
NCshvDavid Throwndowns: 1000 said 07/17, 02:32 PM
once again it comes down to a weak 0-line turning your "young Qb" into David Carr and your RB into Karim Abdul-Jabbar
( and no Lakers Fans not him)
Your arguement about finding Jeff Saturday hold a lot of water- until I bring up players such as TErrell Davis,Curtis Martin went round 3 or later.
Leroy Kelly went in round 8 - that not drafted by todays terms
Terry Allen went in round 9- Even LATER!
You want undrafted? Joe Perry -there ya go.
--If you don;t know who those guys are - look at the top 25 Touchdown scorers of ALL TIME
5 of them went round 3 or worse.
Claiming you can find talent later is a bum reason- I would be willing to bet that I could put together a team of players drafted 4th round or later and it would beat last years All-Pro team
gocoltsgo said 07/17, 03:01 PM
I think that in an NFL with a draft class that year after year is chock full of NFL start worthy offensive linemen a RB or QB is a safer bet. Not only for the skill you receive but also for the marketability of a huge name in either seat. A guy like AP puts fans in the seats.
I could probably throw more down here but Im becoming more and more partial to TDs when its 3-1 after 1 argument, based off of names/current records. Im fine with admitting that LT seems to be the preferred position for first round picks in these TDs, with you and savage pickin em, but I think these things should be made anonymous and no voting until third argument.
Good TD brother if you want to do more of the fantasy draft Im down, just cant do anymore today.
NCshvDavid Throwndowns: 1000 said 07/17, 03:23 PM
" A guy like AP puts fans in the seats"
Right having a RB like Addai, Larry Johnson, Westbrook, LDT, Jones-Drew (etc etc)
is going to have you playing in front of 500 fans a week right?
I will be willing to bet you that fans want to see a team WIN- and you win up front
I could put a half DOZEN Rbs behind that Minny line and do well.
Exhibit A - THE OTHER MINNY RB!
Look at the YPC of Chester Taylor - only 0.2 yards less than ADP
why is that?
I could get 3 YPC if I had Hutch and Bryant McKinnie in front of me- Heck Steven Hawking in his Wheelchair could get 3 yards behind those two!
If a 3-1 hole gets you upset- welcome to fannation- I've been down 10 before on a LIST- you got an arguement at least.
Nice TD.
Never give up
Never surrender!
Comments (21)
holy $hit you picked that up fast, I literally hit save TD and by the time my page had loaded I had a new fanmail.
gocoltsgo | 07/17/08, 11:53 AM
Report Offensive CommentHEY
THIS MY FRIIKKKIN IDEA!!
NCshvDavid Throwndowns: 1000 | 07/17/08, 11:54 AM
Report Offensive Commentmy bad, I just read Savages and made mine
gocoltsgo | 07/17/08, 11:55 AM
Report Offensive CommentWhat, no QB. Brady or manning should be the first pick, as the mot important single position is the QB. After that, go to D and O line, then RB, then LB, then WR and secondary.
GaretJax is Richard Rahl | 07/17/08, 12:37 PM
Report Offensive CommentDavid is closer to the more important positions, but the lack of a QB is unforgivable,
GaretJax is Richard Rahl | 07/17/08, 12:38 PM
Report Offensive CommentGaret - as trent dilfer has proven - if you have a good Oline and good D, any QB will work
rstowe - The NMI Emperor | 07/17/08, 12:40 PM
Report Offensive CommentDave is the winner , winner, chicken dinner....
Goodell: Insane in the McCain | 07/17/08, 12:41 PM
Report Offensive CommentGaret - as trent dilfer has proven - if you have a good Oline and good D, any QB will work
rstowe - The NMI Emperor JL | 07/17/08, 12:40 PM
Trent Dilfer is far more the exception than the rule.
The Ram | 07/17/08, 12:42 PM
Report Offensive CommentWhy is Trent Dilfer the answer to everyones QB issue???
Goodell: Insane in the McCain | 07/17/08, 12:45 PM
Report Offensive Commentbut if you have the oline you can put almost any QB or RB behind them and win....you can have the Best QBs ever but with no line they will end up the same as David Carr....
rstowe - The NMI Emperor | 07/17/08, 12:45 PM
Report Offensive CommentWhy is Trent Dilfer the answer to everyones QB issue???
Goodell: F*** Scott and Ram | 07/17/08, 12:45 PM
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Why is Scott Norwood considered a hero in East Rutheford? Because that's just the way it is.
rstowe - The NMI Emperor | 07/17/08, 12:47 PM
Report Offensive CommentBut a great Oline can be built without spending first round fantasy draft picks on them, QBs, RBs and Dlinemen go off the bat because of the huge skill differences.
gocoltsgo | 07/17/08, 01:05 PM
Report Offensive CommentWhy is Trent Dilfer the answer to everyones QB issue???
Goodell: F*** Scott and Ram | 07/17/08, 12:45 PM
Had you been on the Ravens Super Bowl team that year, you would be the answer to everyone's QB issues...
DetroitFan* BS: Haha Harris! | 07/17/08, 01:39 PM
Report Offensive CommentYes, but how many defenses have there been like that in the history of the NFL? Not many, and it is far more likely a great QB will lead to multiple rings than a great defense will, although defense is needed.
GaretJax is Richard Rahl | 07/17/08, 01:45 PM
Report Offensive CommentGreat pick with Joe Thomas
The Pitt Panther loves RUBIO! | 07/17/08, 02:19 PM
Report Offensive CommentIt's said repeatedly on this site, and with good reason: In football, it starts with line play.
Porkins | 07/17/08, 02:25 PM
Report Offensive CommentYes Thomas is way underappreciated.... Excellent pick
Foosball | 07/17/08, 02:35 PM
Report Offensive CommentMan that David Carr comment was just retarded. You put that guy on any team regardless of the line and he sucks. He holds the ball for ages and when he's in your back feild you just pray for the sack that will injure him. Line is important but a good commander is the number one concern. Like him or hate him, Brady isn't superman, but he leads and that pulls his team. Take him out of the equation in New England and you are not looking at such a dominate team. Thats just how it is right now. And beleive me, I hate New England and Brady.
kryptonian | 07/17/08, 02:40 PM
Report Offensive Commentyour first pick is a RB? WHAT?
the o-line and d-line are by far the most important imo.
after the lines i would go with LBers and CB/safties
QB, WR/TE... RBs could be your last picks... if you have a strong line and a pass threat you will have a good RB
Scpalo - takes you to 5th base | 07/17/08, 02:43 PM
Report Offensive Commenthttp://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/194502
Tight TD here. Vote best side after arguments.
GIFF | 07/17/08, 03:41 PM
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