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djroxalot said 07/23, 11:09 AM
I think it would be a nice pickup and they could trade Rasheed Wallace and a 1st rounder for Artest and Kenny Thomas (to make the salaries work) would be a good move
G-Billups/Stuckey (bad idea)
G-Hamilton/Affalo
F-Prince/Maxiell.......Prince could play the PF much like Rashard Lewis in Orlando
F-Artest/Thomas
C-McDyess/Amir Johnson/Plaisted
Artest could give the Pistons a solid defender to team with Prince at the forward spot.......
G-Udrih, 12.8ppg and 4.3apg
G-Martin, 23.7ppg and 4.5rpg
F-Wallace (12.7ppg, 6.6rpg, 1.7bpg, 1.2spg) is a better starting PF than Mikki Moore=backup center
F-Garcia, 12.3ppg and 3.3rpg
C-Miller, 13.4ppg, 9.5rpg and 3.7apg
Wallace gives the Kings more versatility at PF since he can step out and hit the 3 plus he is a better offensive option than Moore at the 4.......Plus the Kings arent exactly going to be contending any time soon......Wallace and Miller give Sacramento a couple solid vets to mentor the young kids.......
You want to play a game? said 07/23, 11:37 AM
Tell me ONE reason the Kings make this trade.
ONE
Do you think that Wallace is going to make Brad Miller better?
You traded one of the best (and I can argue 2nd best) in the NBA for a PF/C that is not even the best post player on his team and is about as clutch the past 2 years as Chris Webber was a decade ago .
I have watched Wallace since he was a Freshmen at North Carolina- and he has NEVER MENTORED ANYONE- him and the other Freshemen at UNC went to WAR with the Senoirs at UNC and almost got Dean smoking again!
If I am the Kings the ONLY way I trade Artest is if I get Maxiel and Rodney Stuckey and number 1 (or a couple of Number 1s)
I know you are the guy that thought you could get Carmelo, Wade or Bosh straight up for Kwame Brown last year (and only Memphis agreed with you)
but this a NO GO from the Kings.
djroxalot said 07/23, 12:07 PM
"I know you are the guy that thought you could get Carmelo, Wade or Bosh straight up for Kwame Brown last year (and only Memphis agreed with you)"
Once again you are hallucinating and putting words in somebody else's mouth to get votes.......Never wanted Bosh, Wade or Melo for Brown......Plus comparing Wallace to Brown is extremely unknowledgeable..........
The bottom line is the Kings wont trade Artest within the West because he could come back to haunt them much like Favre being traded within the NFC........
1 reason??? Give you 2........
1-Wallace gives the Kings more versatility at PF since he can step out and hit the 3 plus he is a better offensive option than Moore at the 4.......
2-The Kings are rebuilding for the future and could use another 1st round pick.......
You want to play a game? said 07/23, 12:21 PM
I was making a Joke there DJ, you should know better than that- \
But you WERE the one that had the Lakers trading Kwame brown for every good player in the NBA and getting Draft picks to boot.
and for your reasons
2. How much is a LOW 20s pick- if not in the 30th pick going to help a team when a Million bucks can BUY a mid round pick the past few years?
I mean the Pistons have picked the last 4 years 29, 27,(would have been 29) 26
Lotta 5 star talent LEFT at those spots
I would be willing to bet that if you gave me the 26,27,29 AND the 30th pick in next years draft I'm not trading Wallace for that.
1. Wallace- Versitile at the PF-
Just what a 38-44 team needs to get them over the hump in the west- a 12.7 PPG and 6.6 Rpg 34 year old PF to replace the best Defensive SF in the NBA that gives me 20 PPG and 5.8 Rpg
Less a board per game LESS than your PF. - and almost 8 PPG less.
djroxalot said 07/23, 12:41 PM
The Kings arent going to get a "star" for Artest.......Odom isnt going to put the Kings over the top either and that is the most talked about trade for Aretest.......Its unlikely to happen though because the Kings despise the Lakers and dont wanna help them.........
"Lotta 5 star talent LEFT at those spots
I would be willing to bet that if you gave me the 26,27,29 AND the 30th pick in next years draft I'm not trading Wallace for that."
Where was Gilbert Arenas taken? 2nd round
Manu Ginobili? Late in the 2nd round
Josh Howard? Was drafted 29th overall
These are only 3 picks but a shrewd GM like the Spurs have can find these types of players so that argument holds little weight
You want to play a game? said 07/23, 01:06 PM
"Where was Gilbert Arenas taken? 2nd round
Manu Ginobili? Late in the 2nd round
Josh Howard? Was drafted 29th overall "
Right and how many players from those drafts still pulling NBA checks?
I would be willing to bet- from 20th pick on to the end of round 2
the past 20 years
that is 600 picks total (30 picks times 20 years)
you will not find 150 players TOTAL that started more than 50 games in the NBA
Thats only about 25% hit rate
DO that and I will FF enough TDs to you to tie me in Wins
Top of your head
What two players were the last two first round picks of the Spurs
(Since there was no first round pick in 2006- this is 2007 and 2005)
Tiago Splitter
Melvin Roseboro
or
Ian Mahinmi
.
.
.
Do you know yet
.
or have you given up or busted out Google yet?
--BZZT
Consider the two COMBINED for a grand total of 23 minutes and a MONSTER 21 points in NBA play
Melvin was the 9th round pick of the 1985 Draft for the Spurs.
so even the mighty SPURS dont hit on thier post 20 picks
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Artest to Detroit? What???
Are there a few guys Artest missed while he was slugging their fans a few years ago?
The Ram
Pittsburgh , PA
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I'm never going to be a Pistons fan again if Detroit gets Ron Artest. The fans hate him, the players hate him, the managemen hates him . . . remember the brawl back in 03-04?
Detroit Steel
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How did you get the and to go bold david
Joe Dew
Idaho Falls , ID
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How can you trade Artest to Detroit with the Malace at the Palace, this deal would never happen. But I am waiting for arguments to sway my decision.
Joe Dew
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I'm just going with it.
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Prince cld play PF, he only averaged 1.7 fewer rpgh than Wallace
djroxalot
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haha everyone hates artest in detroit he cant live in there for two seconds without getting a death threat or getting killed
AndreNBA won a TD
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In the East, Prince and his 7-6 wingspan would be an interesting matchip at PF ...........
djroxalot
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I cant agree with Artest in Detroit for any reason. Would the Commish really allow it to even happen, i bet not because he would be killed by fans.
Joe Dew
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ill wait on arguments
jeevs BS
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let me know when you're finished fellas.
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Go (Insert Your Team Here)!, MD
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Kings don't want Wallace DJ. As the pimp correctly points out, he's not what they need.
Thugmeister
State Of Jefferson, CA
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Vote to David.
Wallace is not what the Kings need right now. They are in rebuilding mode, and an aging, bad rebounding PF is not what they need right now. Plus, he isn't the best mentor... Not to mention teh fact that Artest going to Detroit is a horrible idea. He is the most hated player in Detroit.
TheSportsGuy.…
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Has to be David here. The Pistons do need to move Rasheed but the Kings really have no need for the guy. The Kings are sold on Thompson (their draft pick) and they have some young bodies at the PF position.
Plus, think of the PR nightmare bringing Artest back to the Palace would cause?
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Thompson is a project
David didnt even offer a trade scenario and he is up, 9-1???
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Name a trade for Artest and would he be a good fit in Detroit????
Cant read huh, Savage???
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i think Maxiell, Stuckey, and a #1 are too much for artest
jeevs BS
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Explosive!
Moondizzle...
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Dave only argued half the TD title. A trade suggestion...even a crazy one would have fulfilled the requirement.
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Dave only argued half the TD title. A trade suggestion...even a crazy one would have fulfilled the requirement.
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Arguement 1.
If I am the Kings the ONLY way I trade Artest is if I get Maxiel and Rodney Stuckey and number 1 (or a couple of Number 1s)
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