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IrishR#1 said 07/23, 02:05 PM
1. Southern Cal Trojans
2. California Golden Bears
3. Arizona Wildcats
4. Arizona State Sun Devils
5. Oregon Ducks
6. Stanford Cardinal
7. Oregon State Beavers
8. Washington State Cougars
9. UCLA Bruins
10. Washington Huskies
djroxalot said 07/23, 02:22 PM
All I can say is WOW, you give Bruins no respect.......And really give the Wildcats too much credit.......
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IrishR#1 said 07/23, 02:55 PM
I'm a Notre Dame fan. I hate to hate on my own team, but UCLA looked pathetic against us. They are only returning 9 starters, and without Christian Taylor and Bruce Davis, expect the pass rush to be horrendous. Ben Olsen is a very bad QB (48.3 comp %), and they lost their top 2 receivers. With 1 returning starter on the offensive line, Bell won't be able to average 5.6 ypc this year.
Arizona will be a great team this year. They are returning 10 starters on offense. Mike Thomas is a great receiver (1038 yds 11 TDs). Willie Tuitama is an underrated QB. They lost a lot of starters on defense, but Ronnie Palmer and Cam Nelson are returning, and they combined for 143 tackles last year. They also are bringing in good recruits on defense such as Soloman Koehler and Robert Golden.
You overrate Arizona State and underrate Cal.
Arizona State had a terrible offensive line last year. Losing the leader of it (Pollak) won't help. They will be a disappointing team this year.
Cal is going to have a good defense this season. Worrell Williams, Anthony Fielder & Syd'Quan Thompson are all All-American caliber. Nate Longshore will do a great job as the leader of the offense.
djroxalot said 07/23, 03:21 PM
Neuheisel is a better coach and recruiter than Dullard and Bob Toledo......You under estimate him........The Bruins return 2 DL and 2 LB's, they should be solid against the run......The pass defense might be a problem the first couple games under their belt......Even if they arent 3rd best team they wont fall more than 5th, 9th is just plain ludicrous with their talent base......They had a top 5 recruiting class at one point and ended with a top 15.......Aaron Hester and Rahim Moore are great recruits as is DE Dante Jones.......He will vie for PT and be a contributor.......
If Ben Olson stays healthy he should have a breakout year, he is that talented and at 6-4 and 235 pounds has the size scouts love.......
ASU returns 7 starters on offense, including the Pac 10's most experienced QB in Rudy Carpenter and 7 starters on a defense that gave up just 22.5ppg (31st in NCAA)......
Nate Longhshore is in a struggle to keep his job with Kevin Riley, the Bears lost WR's DeSean Jackson, Robert Jordan and RB Justin Forsett......
The D was 58th in the nation last year.......
IrishR#1 said 07/24, 01:19 PM
Neuheisel isn't a great coach. He's a great recruiter. The Bruins only are returning 9 starters, and their 19 returning starters last year could barely even get them to a bowl game. The Pac-10 is getting better, but UCLA isn't. Olsen is an innaccurate QB who collapses under pressure. He might not even get a starting job.
Arizona State gives up too many sacks. Carpenter is a great QB, but he will not get any time to do anything.
Even if Longshore isn't the starter, Kevin Riley is a great quarterback as well. DeSean Jackson was only a special teamer. He didn't make big contributions on offense. The defense is returning some of their key players, so it should be in the top 40 this season.
djroxalot said 07/24, 02:08 PM
"Neuheisel is a better coach and recruiter than Dullard and Bob Toledo......You under estimate him........"
Sorry where did I say he was a GREAT coach???? He is a better coach than the Bruins have had in a long time, probably since Terry Donahue......Who wasnt a great coach either but a very good one.........
The Sun Devils return 7 starters on offense and they are implementing multiple WR sets so that Carpenter can use his quick release and get the ball out of his hand quicker........
Jackson caught 65 passes for 762 yards and 6 TD's.......While those arent "WOW" stats, they still have to replace those 65 caught passes.......He was 2nd on the team in receptions and tied for team lead in TD's........
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